[bksvol-discuss] Re: some questions
- From: "gwen tweedy" <gstweedy@xxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:32:13 -0500
Aparently a lot of books don't actually have table of contents I wish they did
in lots of cases.
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From: Mayrie ReNae
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:16 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: some questions
Hi Roger,
If a table of contents is listed on the web, wouldn't it then be in the book?
If it's in the book, most times, you can use that one to insert missing
chapter headings, unless the table of contents in the book is in a funky font
and scanned poorly. But I suppose it's worth a try to search the web first,
but I kind of doubt that anyone would create a table of contents for a book
that didn't originally have one. I shouldn't knock the idea until I've tried
it though.
Mayrie
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: some questions
Like I said, every now and then I come across a table of contents on the web,
but it is hit or miss. It might be possible to find one if you google the title
and author. For the most part you just get reviews and sites selling the book
that way, but if you have the time to wade through that stuff you just might
get lucky.
"If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything.
" Malcolm X
The Militant: http://www.themilitant.com Pathfinder Press:
http://www.pathfinderpress.com
Granma International: http://www.granma.cu/ingles/index.html
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[bksvol-discuss] Re: some questions
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HI Gwen,
Yes, sometimes knowing where chapter headings should go, and what they should
say can be tricky. I haven't found a place online to find out this stuff
that works for a blind person. The feature that allows a person to look
inside a book on Amazon is, unfortunately, not usable by a blind person, at
least,
not by me. I'm pretty sure a geek could do it, but I'm nowhere near being a
geek!
If you are pretty sure that your chapter headings are things like "chapter 1"
you can figure out where they go, because those pages may have garbled text
at the top that is obviously not the running header of title or author of the
book. So, they can be inserted by the proofreader, if said proofreader can
determine that a chapter heading is something simple like I said above. The
rub comes when chapter headings have actual titles, like little stories.
Then sighted assistance is pretty much what we need.
As for page numbers not appearing in books, if Bob is looking at books that
he submitted, knowing that page numbers were in the book, and is using Kurzweil
to look at the daisy file, Kurzweil doesn't show bookshare's page numbers.
It's a Kurzweil problem, a sort of inadequacy on their part, but if he were
to look at the xml file in Internet Explorer, he might well discover that the
page numbers are indeed in the book.
Does any of that answer your questions? I hope so. Sorry I don't have a
better solution for looking inside a book. I'm pretty sure that every single
sighted volunteer here has had to help me out with inserting chapter headings
in books, and I can't tell you how much I appreciate all of them and their
help! If ever I find a way to find this information by myself, I'll let you
know.
You know, if your local librarians are willing to help, and the library has
the books you need, and all you need are the pages on which chapter headings
should start, they might be able to make you a list of chapter headings and
their respective starting pages. Just a thought.
Mayrie
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of gwen tweedy
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:22 PM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] some questions
Is there a place on line, where you can find out things for a book like the
contents of books that kind of thing
I know you can wait until you see a sighted person and that is cool but
wondered if there is such a place where you can find out things the little
things
without sighted help.
Also Bob thought he heard once, like if it is a text book or an important
book where things have to be precise but on fiction books if it didn't mess up
the book some things didn't matter like we've had books before where headings
weren't there and lots of times the page numbers you don't hear them in a
book they don't show up when the book comes up and is excepted anyhow because
of like software or any number of things.
Because he says he has put up books that he was sure he had the page numbers
in and stuff and when he has looked at them or brought them down none of those
things are in there.
I know you have to do a good job that kind of thing
I have even had a person who does not volunteer for bookshare who just reads
tell me that all that stuff distracts from the book and breaks up the text
and it bothers him.
Just thought I'd ask.
Cause some books no matter what a blind person does some books are grand but
some books especially these tiny ones stuff just doesn't come out and this
is about the 4th time I've gone through this book in fact got so dilligent on
it that ended up putting up a partial book not sure how that happened but
it did.
I'm ready for some new books LOL these same 9 books LOL have been sitting on
my table for months and I've redone them so many times that wow they are broke
*smile*
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