Actually, I don't know if it took two days. I don't really know how long it took. I just know that it was on the download list one day and in the collection the next day and it was listed as having been proofread by a certain person who I do know has taken a whole five minutes on over 200 page books in the past. That is, has taken five minutes on a book over and over. "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx table with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: request of submitters Date: 3/21/2009 8:17:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: mbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end Hi, Roger. Me again. I certainly do think it would be appropriate to report a jiffy proofer of someone else's book. But the book you're talking about took almost two whole days, which isn't so terribly "jiffy." If I take my vitamins, I might be able to proof a book in two days. (smile) But your heart and head are in the right place, Roger. Marilyn On Mar 21, 2009, at 7:54 PM, Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote: block quote I wonder if it is appropriate to report a jiffy proofer when he gets someone else's book. Two days ago there was a book on the download list that had been there several months and I had my eye on it. Last night I noticed that it was on the new additions list. That was a quick turn around so I suspected who the proofreader might be. I clicked the link to the metadata and sure enough it was listed as having been proofread by NW. That is, Nick Wilcox got another one. "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx table with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: request of submitters Date: 3/21/2009 7:40:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: mbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end Hi, List. Skeptic here. The "jiffy proofreaders" won't be stopped unless someone reports them to that "volunteer@bookshare" or whatever address EVERY TIME they "jiffy proof" a book. And then, as Pavi said, first they'll get a letter, next perhaps some credits deducted. It's going to take some heavy-duty reporting on them to get them truly "outta here" for good. Speaking of "outta here," has anyone had a problem with a "downloader and releaser" with the initials PM who just seems to be building her own little library off of other people's "Holds"? I did, reported it, and I don't see anyone complaining about her, so maybe she's okay now. But, again, I stress that the "jiffy proofreaders" need to be reported each and every time to get any results at all. I wish you Good Luck, Sincerely, Marilyn On Mar 21, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx wrote: block quote It seems to be working, but I am still concerned about depriving the off-list responsible proofreaders. I hope that somehow the two jiffy proofers can either be stopped or convinced to become responsible. "Philosophers have merely interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it." Karl Marx table with 2 columns and 6 rows Subj: [bksvol-discuss] Re: request of submitters Date: 3/21/2009 6:09:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time From: mirxtech@xxxxxxxxx Reply-to: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent from the Internet (Details) table end Well, so far "hold for reader" (and I have seen other submitters doing this too) has kept the person who was taking all of the books I submitted and then just checking them back in, from taking those books. So that person is obviously not on the volunteer list. It seems to be working. -- Jamie in Michigan Currently Reading: Witnesses of War by Nicholas Stargardt www.michrxtech.com/books.html ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220863691x1201421954/aol?redir=http:% 2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62% 26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) block quote end = ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220863691x1201421954/aol?redir=http:% 2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62% 26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62) block quote end = ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220863691x1201421954/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgI D%3D62%26bcd%3DMarchfooterNO62)