[bksvol-discuss] Re: proper dealing with footnotes at the bottom of a page
- From: <ohio1803@xxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 11:35:32 -0700
Boy, am I ever glad that I asked!
Thank you, Judy.
I understand that our practices at Bookshare a fluid and ever changing.
And I thought I should just go ahead and ask.
I have been meaning to get treatment of footnotes completely in my mind.
And as you mention, we have all been working to get a uniform practice together.
Having been in graduate school and struggled with citations quite a bit, I
remember this being a difficulty.
So I would like to be part of the help that makes it easier for the print
impaired amongst us in the academic world today and using Bookshare.
If this is the official way for footnotes, then, I will try and comply.
But if you will allow me, a few clarifying questions, okay?
As I understand it, then, it is believed by all that the asterisks are easily
discernible for us readers, either with Braille or using speech. So we are to
leave them alone and we replace the cross symbol with the asterisk and then
just put a series of asterisks as they pile up.
IS that about correct?
For me, using JAWS screen reader, I hear “star.” Okay, fine. My K-1000 does not
make any sound unless I have the settings to read all punctuation which is
pretty annoying as a reader unless you are in this proofreading type of mind
set, and not reading the content for its own sake.
To take what you tell me a bit further. Sorry to be too simple minded. But I am.
So if say there are 8 footnotes citations on a single page. I could have 8
asterisks in a row? And then they are represented below at the bottom of the
page, which is all in one single bracketed area and no word “footnote.”
Is that correct?
Example:
[**** This is footnote number 4.
***** This is footnote number 5.]
and so on.
Aside here.
FYI My JAWS does NOT read all of those stars! It just says star star star for
both of those citations.
Therefore my feeling is this may not be quite the best way to go.
Since I posted I was trying the new way with using the numeral within
parentheses.
That seemed a pretty decent way, too. But I can easily go back and fix it.
I must say if I am reading I much prefer to have that word footnote in there.
Just as I like to hear the word chapter in front of a chapter’s number.
And the words image caption in front of a caption.
I guess I had better see what is said about those things, too.
If you can update me on that, I would also be appreciative.
Let me just ask another question on the footnotes, while I am thinking on it.
What about the numbered footnote? I mean the footnote which is designated by a
numeral up tight against a period?
As described in this now outdated manual (as you describe it) it says to
replace that numeral inside () parentheses?
I had started to do that as well. But prior to just reading it I was leaving
the number alone, as I could tell what it was when my speech would say the
number, so I thought that was good.
This type of a footnote is such that can then have the citations in a later
section of the book. I have scanned a number of books that had this recently.
If there is a section in the current manual, about this, please advise.
I try to use the manual, and sometimes I wonder how I do wind up at the wrong
place.
I think I was also on a wikipedia page. I think we were using that for awhile.
Has it any validity for us at this time?
Again, thank you!
My apologies for such a darned long email!
Would somebody just love to proofread my emails?
Ha ha.
I think our volunteer and staff work at Bookshare is somewhat like the practice
of organic gardening.
No one is completely wrong, but we all want the rich nourishment of good
healthy content.
BEst,
Rik J
From: Judy s.
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 12:58 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: proper dealing with footnotes at the bottom of a
page
Hi Rik,
Unfortunately, that version of the Bookshare manual is outdated and has been
replaced. From the current manual, here's how to handle the first part of what
you've asked about:
Leave the first footnote designated as it is with an asterisk. Replace that
symbol that looks like a cross that designates the seconf symbol with two
asterisks. (from
https://www.bookshare.org/cms/get-involved/volunteer/my-volunteer-home/scanning-and-proofreading/tips-scanning-proofing/tips)
Then, although this is not in the new volunteer manual yet, how to handle
footnotes themselves was posted to the list by Madeleine in 2014. Here's how to
do this type:
2. For the footnotes themselves, put them at the bottom of the page, enclosed
in square brackets. Put the single asterisk in front of the first one, then the
double asterisk in front of the second one. Do not add the word footnotes to
this.
Example:
[* this is footnote number one.
**This is footnote number two]
Hope that helps!
Judy s.
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On 3/6/2015 1:45 AM, ohio1803@xxxxx wrote:
Quick question.
A book I am scanning has footnotes to the text that is on the same page.
The footnotes are designated by an asterisk and that little symbol that looks
like a cross, not sure what you call it.
The way this book did it was to have the first footnote designated with an
asterisk. And the 2nd with a cross symbol, whatever you call it.
As I am reading as I scan these pages, these symbols do not speak.
So I wish to get a routine way to deal with them.
Reading the section on the Proofreading Manual, it says to replace the
footnote symbols with a number in parentheses.
URL:
https://wiki.benetech.org/display/BSO/4.+Proofread+a+book
And to the footnotes below on the bottom of the page, to be housed inside an
open and closed bracket such as this. [footnote 1: and closed with a closed
bracket such as this.]
Is this all cool?
Or have things changed?
I figure it is way easier to just get this done right at the time of scanning.
So I'd like feedback on the above to reassure myself of what the consensus is.
Thank you much.
Rik
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