[bksvol-discuss] Re: em dashes

  • From: "Sue Stevens" <siss52@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 12:24:21 -0500


Please change the subject line. This thread has nothing to do with em dashes.
Thanks,
Sue S.


-----Original Message----- From: Roger Loran Bailey
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:54 AM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: em dashes

I said priority, not exclusivity. I mentioned before that I thought that
priority should be given to books that were not accessible at all rather
than to books that are already accessible in some form and I got an
answer that it should be kept in mind that audio books are not
accessible to the deaf blind and that what is accessible to some is not
necessarily accessible to others. Well, I never said that any book that
is available in audio form should be banned from Bookshare. There may be
any number of reasons why a book available in some other format that is
accessible to some print impaired people should be given a higher
priority. If, for example, a book is available only in Braille it is
inaccessible to me, for example. The point is that if it is available in
some accessible format it is at least available to more print impaired
people than a book that is not available in any accessible format at
all. Then there are books that are available in one accessible format,
but it is not complete and that covers the example you gave. It still
remains, though, that books that are available in no accessible format
at all need the higher priority if all other things are equal.
Considerations like the need for a complete book for a specific purpose
would boost the specific book's priority. My own Braille skills are so
poor that it would be such a chore for me to read an entire book in
Braille that it may as well be said that it is inaccessible to me.
However, it is still accessible to other print impaired people and
unless there is a good reason that would boost that book's priority it
would be better to make a book accessible to both me and the Braille
reader rather than just for me. If I had a real need for the information
included in the book, though, its priority may be advanced over the
completely inaccessible book. Bear in mind that when you hear the word
priority it means priority. If I meant that a book should be avoided for
Bookshare I would have said that it should be excluded and I would have
not used the word priority.
On 6/21/2012 3:21 AM, Gary Petraccaro wrote:
Assuming I understand correctly, I really disagree with this one. If it's a talking book I would still want it on BookShare especially if it's nonfiction and has documentation. Catton's Centennial series on the Civil War has notes and I would have liked to know it and have access to them. The earliest version on records never mentioned notes at all and the subsequent tape version only has the notes with text as part of them being read. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Loran Bailey" <rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 7:13 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: em dashes


Since a page of Braille is equal to about a third of a page of print I doubt that a Braille copy of a book would be useful at all in determining the pagination of a book. Electronic copies are pretty much a different matter too. Anyway, I would not give high priority to working on a book for Bookshare -- that is, making a book accessible -- that is already accessible in some form.

On 6/18/2012 4:33 PM, Dasha Radford wrote:
If I was able to get hold of a braille copy of a book how would I go about using it. That is for page numbers and such. By the page numbers the same or is there some difference like there is in electronic format. Are there any electronic book formats that actually contained the true print page numbers?

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On Jun 18, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Roger Loran Bailey<rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Leave the M dashes without spaces either before or after.

On 6/18/2012 2:46 AM, Cindy wrote:
Sorry to bother you all again. Now I can't remember, Should there a space before and after the em dash ? or none.
Cindy(2 hyphens) o
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