[bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?

  • From: Tim Syfert <goodproofing2010@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 06:35:02 -0700 (PDT)

Kim, 


I am a deranged perfectionist proofreader! And I also like the idea of reading 
a book for free or almost free. I, too, like finding and deleting what 
shouldn't be there. I was kidding about my last post.

Tim



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From: Kim Friedman <kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 8:09 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?


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Hi, 
Tim, I don't know if anyone ever told you the reason for this term. Carrie 
Karnos is the one responsible for the term "deranged perfectionist" to describe 
certain volunteers, i.e., submitters who insist on practically proofreading 
their submissions so the proofreader should theoretically have little to do and 
those proofreaders who don't think the book is proofread unless they read the 
file from first word to last, despite being assured by the submitter that 
headers and footers are stripped, page numbers and chapters have been 
protected, 
etc. etc. Speaking strictly for myself, since I proofread fiction, my ulterior 
motive, aside from making sure that scannos are deleted, formatting is correct, 
and the book is a pleasure to read, is that delightful prospect of reading a 
good story before the general Bookshare membership gets the chance to download 
the file. I also get the opportunity of informing the submitter that their 
scans 
are good. I like them to know if I found anything or nothing. Call it a way to 
ensure their baby is being taken care of before being sent up for approval. I 
really admire those folks who aren't intimidated about scanning print as I am. 
I 
really like looking at a file and can read and delete stuff that shouldn't be 
there. It doesn't drive me crazy. Regards, Kim Friedman.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Syfert
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 3:49 
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Deranged perfectionist? Who's 
deranged? You better believe it!! (evil smile). 



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 From: Kim Friedman 
<kimfri11@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 6:13 
AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] 
Re: Why?


Hi, 
Jamie's right. I remember proofreading a book and running it through the 
spell-checker before sending it up for approval and was startled to find that I 
needed to add some spaces to the book or something like that. Due to the 
Braille 
display not being recognized, I hadn't been aware of how the line looked based 
on what I heard. I can see why Bookshare insists on two people overseeing the 
processing of the file, one to submit and one to proofread. And if you have two 
deranged perfectionists on a given project, submitter and proofreader, then 
that 
book will be as near perfect as we can make it, barring stupid things like 
typographical errors or missing words left out by the publisher. Regards, Kim 
Friedman.
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jamie Yates, CPhT
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 
10:08 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Why?

It's true that if you scan the 
book you have the book to proofread with, but I think, in the beginning, there 
were very few sighted volunteers for Bookshare. So a person without sight 
couldn't really compare it with the print book, right?

And then, too, 
it's always good to have a second pair of eyes (um, or fingers or ears, sorry!) 
to look something over. I am in general a pretty careful scanner but I have 
several times submitted a book that was missing pages and it's my custom to 
page 
down through the file counting page numbers to make sure they are all there. I 
even once submitted a book that had a chunk of pages twice.

It's like 
when you read a book that has errors in the print--your eyes see what they want 
to see and not what is really there. So sometimes you don't even see the 
mistakes.

And of course there are scanners (like me) who don't read every 
word of what they scan, and there are proofreaders who don't read every word of 
what they proof. So two sets of eyes on the job are better than 
one.


-- 
Jamie in Michigan
 
Currently Reading: Child 44 by Tom Rob Smith

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