[bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:03:38 -0800 (PST)
Very true, Sue--assuming that he/she thinks to check
the download list to see if the book is back
there--since we validators are not notified if the
book is bounced back. Those of us here on the list
can communicate with each other, as E says, but I
suspect there are a lot of volunteers not on the list.
I've often wondered how many.
Cindy
--- siss52 <siss52@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Cindy,
> I may be speaking too soon, but if the validator
> saved the work, he/she
> would not have to use that original copy, but coould
> use the saved copy,
> verify the copyright, and upload it.
>
> hth,
> Sue S.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:31 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
>
>
> > O.K., Guys. Here's what I don't understand. If a
> book
> > is put back on the download list with a note like
> > confirm copyright holder or correct title, how can
> a
> > person just do that if it's the original back on
> the
> > download list? Jake, I did think it was the
> > original--thanks for confirming my opinion--but if
> > onlyh one thing is wrong, like the copyright name
> or
> > title, and the original is put back on the step
> one
> > list, then someone else has to start the
> validation
> > process all over again before correcting the one
> thing
> > wrong. This doesn't make sense to me.
> >
> > As to rejected books being put back on the
> download
> > list, I know that will happen if someone requests
> it.
> > Gustavo was kind enough to do it recently for
> someone
> > who had rejected it by mistake and for me wo
> wanted to
> > validate a rejected book so it wouldn't be
> rejected.
> >
> > I'm curious, too, as to where all those terms are,
> > Jake. Some I've seen on the download list, but
> surely
> > Publish isn't there, according to what it means.
> If
> > the book is in the collection it won't be the
> download
> > list. And Valid and Invalid--if the book had
> already
> > been validated, why is it back on the step one
> list?
> >
> > And I've seen Time Expired, so does Return New
> mean
> > that the book was purposfully released by a
> would-be
> > validator and Time Expired mean what it says?
> >
> > As E has pointed out, it would really be helpful
> if
> > there were a way a person who releases a book
> could
> > explain why. Maybe a Comments section could be
> added
> > so that when one hits Release he/she can explain.
> Just
> > another suggestion for the engineers when they
> have
> > nothing else to do. smile
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> > --- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Jake,
> > >
> > > The DONEDONE action comes after the VALID
> action,
> > > not before since it's
> > > above the VALID action, so I still believe it's
> the
> > > tools like the Stripper
> > > and Duxbury, not the tools like the spell
> checker
> > > and adult content checker
> > > that are being run. We'll have to remember to
> ask
> > > about it sometime since
> > > that's the only way to find out what this one
> truly
> > > means.
> > >
> > > Looks like you've included all the actions in
> your
> > > list. At least that's
> > > all I remember ever seeing.
> > >
> > > BTW, I found an example of a book being kicked
> back
> > > after rejection. The
> > > book by Jocelyn Siler which has Book Title for
> the
> > > title has been kicked
> > > back twice, once after being accepted and once
> after
> > > being rejected.
> > >
> > > Gerald
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > Behalf Of Jake Brownell
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:14 AM
> > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi guys,
> > > In examining the sometimes cryptic messages
> the
> > > BookShare system logs
> > > here's a list:
> > >
> > > SUBMIT: fairly self explanatory, the user
> submitted
> > > the book.
> > > EDIT: A volunteer has checked the book out for
> > > validation.
> > > VALID: A volunteer has validated the book
> > > INVALID: A volunteer has rejected the book.
> > > RETURNNEW: Gustavo/an administrator has placed
> the
> > > book back in the
> > > validation ppol, or a user has released the book
> or
> > > their allotted
> > > validation time has expired (in which case there
> is
> > > an expiration comment).
> > > DONEDONE: Since this generally appears before
> the
> > > VALID comment, I'm
> > > guessing this is the first part of the "Step 2"
> > > process. This is when the
> > > automated dictionary and adult content checker
> are
> > > executed.
> > > PUBLISH: This appears to be done when Gustavo/an
> > > admin puts the book live
> > > onto the site.
> > >
> > > By all means point anything out you think I've
> got
> > > wrong, I'd be happy to
> > > look into it. If you run across any other
> messages,
> > > I'd love to speculate on
> > > them *grin*
> > >
> > > Hope this helps someone...
> > > Jake
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:00 PM
> > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Cindy, There is onne Gerald did noot explain
> and
> > > that is "donedone". That
> > > > is just plain idiotic. <smile>
> > > >
> > > > Sue S.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:50 PM
> > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted
> synopsis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks, Gerald. I, for one, did not know
> that,
> > > and I
> > > >> am glad to learn it. I'm also glad you
> explained
> > > more
> > > >> or less what Invalid and ReturnNew meant. A
> lot
> > > of
> > > >> people have asked in the past and if we got
> good
> > > >> answers I don't remember them. Now I hope I
> will.
> > > >> smile
> > > >>
> > > >> Cindy
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Mickey,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This sounds like it's probably a problem on
> > > your end
> > > >> > rather than a problem
> > > >> > with Bookshare, but due to the recent
> > > Engineering
> > > >> > release, I'll make sure
> > > >> > it's not on Bookshare's end.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > In either case, as Mike said, the thing to
> do
> > > in
> > > >> > this situation would have
> > > >> > been to release it back to the Step 1 page
> to
> > > allow
> > > >> > someone else to try to
> > > >> > fix the problem rather than rejecting the
> book.
> > > Let
> > > >> > me know what the title
> > > >> > and author are, and I'll make sure Gustavo
> > > knows to
> > > >> > reject your rejection.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > In case some of you weren't aware, a book
> isn't
> > > >> > actually rejected until
> > > >> > Gustavo reviews the reason for rejecting
> the
> > > book.
> > > >> > I've even come across a
> > > >> > book where it was obvious that someone had
> > > rejected
> > > >> > a book but Gustavo had
> > > >> > placed it back on the Step 1 page after he
> > > reviewed
> > > >> > their reason for
> > > >> > rejection. The actions in the summary
> > > information
> > > >> > included an INVALID
> > > >> > action followed by a RETURNNEW action by
> > > Gustavo.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Gerald
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> >
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> > > >> > Behalf Of Mike Pietruk
> > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:55 PM
> > > >> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted
> > > synopsis
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mickey
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Pass along the name of the book so that
> Gerald
> > > can
> > > >> > contact Gustavo in the
> > > >> > morning and have the book placed on Step 1.
> > > >> > If Gustavo observes the reason for the
> > > rejection, he
> > > >> > may himself re-enter
> > > >> > the book on Step 1, but forcing the
> submitter
> > > to
> > > >> > resubmit the book, just
> > > >> > because of this,
> > > >> > really isn't good pr for BookShare.
> > > >> > Next time, I'd suggest simply releasing the
> > > book
> > > >> > rather than attempting to
> > > >> > kill it.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mike
> > > >> >
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