[bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis

Exactly what I do.

E.
At 10:03 AM 12/6/2005, you wrote:


Cindy,
I may be speaking too soon, but if the validator saved the work, he/she
would not have to use that original copy, but coould use the saved copy,
verify the copyright, and upload it.

hth,
Sue S.

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From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:31 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis


> O.K., Guys. Here's what I don't understand. If a book > is put back on the download list with a note like > confirm copyright holder or correct title, how can a > person just do that if it's the original back on the > download list? Jake, I did think it was the > original--thanks for confirming my opinion--but if > onlyh one thing is wrong, like the copyright name or > title, and the original is put back on the step one > list, then someone else has to start the validation > process all over again before correcting the one thing > wrong. This doesn't make sense to me. > > As to rejected books being put back on the download > list, I know that will happen if someone requests it. > Gustavo was kind enough to do it recently for someone > who had rejected it by mistake and for me wo wanted to > validate a rejected book so it wouldn't be rejected. > > I'm curious, too, as to where all those terms are, > Jake. Some I've seen on the download list, but surely > Publish isn't there, according to what it means. If > the book is in the collection it won't be the download > list. And Valid and Invalid--if the book had already > been validated, why is it back on the step one list? > > And I've seen Time Expired, so does Return New mean > that the book was purposfully released by a would-be > validator and Time Expired mean what it says? > > As E has pointed out, it would really be helpful if > there were a way a person who releases a book could > explain why. Maybe a Comments section could be added > so that when one hits Release he/she can explain. Just > another suggestion for the engineers when they have > nothing else to do. smile > > Cindy > > --- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Jake, > > > > The DONEDONE action comes after the VALID action, > > not before since it's > > above the VALID action, so I still believe it's the > > tools like the Stripper > > and Duxbury, not the tools like the spell checker > > and adult content checker > > that are being run. We'll have to remember to ask > > about it sometime since > > that's the only way to find out what this one truly > > means. > > > > Looks like you've included all the actions in your > > list. At least that's > > all I remember ever seeing. > > > > BTW, I found an example of a book being kicked back > > after rejection. The > > book by Jocelyn Siler which has Book Title for the > > title has been kicked > > back twice, once after being accepted and once after > > being rejected. > > > > Gerald > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > Behalf Of Jake Brownell > > Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 12:14 AM > > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis > > > > > > Hi guys, > > In examining the sometimes cryptic messages the > > BookShare system logs > > here's a list: > > > > SUBMIT: fairly self explanatory, the user submitted > > the book. > > EDIT: A volunteer has checked the book out for > > validation. > > VALID: A volunteer has validated the book > > INVALID: A volunteer has rejected the book. > > RETURNNEW: Gustavo/an administrator has placed the > > book back in the > > validation ppol, or a user has released the book or > > their allotted > > validation time has expired (in which case there is > > an expiration comment). > > DONEDONE: Since this generally appears before the > > VALID comment, I'm > > guessing this is the first part of the "Step 2" > > process. This is when the > > automated dictionary and adult content checker are > > executed. > > PUBLISH: This appears to be done when Gustavo/an > > admin puts the book live > > onto the site. > > > > By all means point anything out you think I've got > > wrong, I'd be happy to > > look into it. If you run across any other messages, > > I'd love to speculate on > > them *grin* > > > > Hope this helps someone... > > Jake > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "siss52" <siss52@xxxxxxx> > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 11:00 PM > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis > > > > > > > > > > Cindy, There is onne Gerald did noot explain and > > that is "donedone". That > > > is just plain idiotic. <smile> > > > > > > Sue S. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Cindy" <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 9:50 PM > > > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted synopsis > > > > > > > > >> Thanks, Gerald. I, for one, did not know that, > > and I > > >> am glad to learn it. I'm also glad you explained > > more > > >> or less what Invalid and ReturnNew meant. A lot > > of > > >> people have asked in the past and if we got good > > >> answers I don't remember them. Now I hope I will. > > >> smile > > >> > > >> Cindy > > >> > > >> > > >> --- Gerald Hovas <geraldhovas@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >> > Mickey, > > >> > > > >> > This sounds like it's probably a problem on > > your end > > >> > rather than a problem > > >> > with Bookshare, but due to the recent > > Engineering > > >> > release, I'll make sure > > >> > it's not on Bookshare's end. > > >> > > > >> > In either case, as Mike said, the thing to do > > in > > >> > this situation would have > > >> > been to release it back to the Step 1 page to > > allow > > >> > someone else to try to > > >> > fix the problem rather than rejecting the book. > > Let > > >> > me know what the title > > >> > and author are, and I'll make sure Gustavo > > knows to > > >> > reject your rejection. > > >> > > > >> > In case some of you weren't aware, a book isn't > > >> > actually rejected until > > >> > Gustavo reviews the reason for rejecting the > > book. > > >> > I've even come across a > > >> > book where it was obvious that someone had > > rejected > > >> > a book but Gustavo had > > >> > placed it back on the Step 1 page after he > > reviewed > > >> > their reason for > > >> > rejection. The actions in the summary > > information > > >> > included an INVALID > > >> > action followed by a RETURNNEW action by > > Gustavo. > > >> > > > >> > Gerald > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> > [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > >> > Behalf Of Mike Pietruk > > >> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 7:55 PM > > >> > To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Submitted > > synopsis > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Mickey > > >> > > > >> > Pass along the name of the book so that Gerald > > can > > >> > contact Gustavo in the > > >> > morning and have the book placed on Step 1. > > >> > If Gustavo observes the reason for the > > rejection, he > > >> > may himself re-enter > > >> > the book on Step 1, but forcing the submitter > > to > > >> > resubmit the book, just > > >> > because of this, > > >> > really isn't good pr for BookShare. > > >> > Next time, I'd suggest simply releasing the > > book > > >> > rather than attempting to > > >> > kill it. > > >> > > > >> > Mike > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > To unsubscribe from this list send a blank > > Email to > > >> > bksvol-discuss-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >> > put the word 'unsubscribe' by itself in the > > subject > > >> > line. 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