[bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages
- From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:51:00 -0700
But only four? I'm quite sure there are six in the .brf file, I did not
miscount.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Hovas
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:22 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages
Interesting. I checked the HTML file, and it has multiple titles at the top
of it as well. It has the title, followed by the author and title, followed by
the title twice. Looks like Bookshare has a problem with the tool which adds
the legal notice at the top of the books.
Pratik and I'll check into it.
Gerald
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:07 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages
The version of "Knife of Dreams" has six titles at the top. First there's
the centered title, then the author's name, then five more titles, some
centered, some just indented two spaces in the brf file I have. They appear to
alternate between being centered and indented two spaces, but there are six of
them, then one more after the legal boilerplate.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Hovas
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:13 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages
Jill,
No, I don't. That's the first I've heard about the problem. Would you
mind sending me a few names of some books which have the problem so I can ask
about it?
Gerald
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill O'Connell
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 10:38 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages
Gerald, to you happen to know why we are seeing the book title five or six
times in a row in the newer books; at least this is the case in braille.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gerald Hovas
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:28 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages
Monica,
Whoever designed the Stripper seems to have taken the title page into
consideration. I wouldn't worry about this page. The only pages at the
beginning of the book where it might be necessary to worry about something
getting stripped would be the headings on the pages of the Table of Contents
and the Acknowledgements. I've been treating these headings like chapter
headings and protecting them.
As for the roman numeral pages at the beginning of books, I'd treat them
the same as the headers and page numbers in the rest of the book. The Stripper
seems to have been designed to handle roman numerals as page numbers. At least
I haven't noticed any difference in how the Stripper treats them. The evidence
that the Stripper seems to understand them is that it's not adding page numbers
to these pages in the HTML files. I've recently noticed that the Stripper
seems to have a problem with blank pages where a page number has been added,
making the page number the only thing on the page. I've spotted two page
numbers on these pages in the HTML files, indicating that the Stripper didn't
recognize the page number and didn't strip it. The Stripper appears to be
storing a page number in the SMIL file based on what it expected to find but
didn't, and then adding that guess back to that page when the HTML file is
created resulting in two page numbers for the page. As I said, I haven't
noticed a second set of page numbers on the pages with roman numerals, so the
Stripper appears to understand that they are page numbers and treats them
accordingly. However, I haven't been looking that close at them, though,
because I don't recall having worked on a book which had them. My advice would
be to treat them as if they were arabic page numbers, then download the book
once it makes it into the collection and see what happened. I'll try to pay
closer attention when I validate a book with roman numerals to see exactly what
is happening.
HTH
Gerald
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[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Cortada
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 7:26 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Stripper and Preliminary Pages
What would be the ideal treatment of the first few pages of a book like
the title page? Should a placeholder header be put here for the stripper to
strip?
Also, what should be done with the roman numeral page numbers at the
beginning of a book?
Sorry to have so many questions and thanks for your patience.
Monica in Maryland
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