[bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages

  • From: "Gerald Hovas" <GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 13:22:37 -0500

Interesting.  I checked the HTML file, and it has multiple titles at the top
of it as well.  It has the title, followed by the author and title, followed
by the title twice.  Looks like Bookshare has a problem with the tool which
adds the legal notice at the top of the books.

 

Pratik and I'll check into it.

 

Gerald

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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Evan Reese
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:07 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages

 

The version of "Knife of Dreams" has six titles at the top.  First there's
the centered title, then the author's name, then five more titles, some
centered, some just indented two spaces in the brf file I have.  They appear
to alternate between being centered and indented two spaces, but there are
six of them, then one more after the legal boilerplate.

 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Gerald <mailto:GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>  Hovas 

To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 9:13 AM

Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages

 

Jill,

 

No, I don't.  That's the first I've heard about the problem.  Would you mind
sending me a few names of some books which have the problem so I can ask
about it?

 

Gerald

 


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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jill O'Connell
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 10:38 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages

 

Gerald, to you happen to know why we are seeing the book title five or six
times in a row in the newer books; at least this is the case in braille. 

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Gerald <mailto:GeraldHovas@xxxxxxxxxxx>  Hovas 

To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:28 PM

Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Stripper and Preliminary Pages

 

Monica,

 

Whoever designed the Stripper seems to have taken the title page into
consideration.  I wouldn't worry about this page.  The only pages at the
beginning of the book where it might be necessary to worry about something
getting stripped would be the headings on the pages of the Table of Contents
and the Acknowledgements.  I've been treating these headings like chapter
headings and protecting them.

 

As for the roman numeral pages at the beginning of books, I'd treat them the
same as the headers and page numbers in the rest of the book.  The Stripper
seems to have been designed to handle roman numerals as page numbers.  At
least I haven't noticed any difference in how the Stripper treats them.  The
evidence that the Stripper seems to understand them is that it's not adding
page numbers to these pages in the HTML files.  I've recently noticed that
the Stripper seems to have a problem with blank pages where a page number
has been added, making the page number the only thing on the page.  I've
spotted two page numbers on these pages in the HTML files, indicating that
the Stripper didn't recognize the page number and didn't strip it.  The
Stripper appears to be storing a page number in the SMIL file based on what
it expected to find but didn't, and then adding that guess back to that page
when the HTML file is created resulting in two page numbers for the page.
As I said, I haven't noticed a second set of page numbers on the pages with
roman numerals, so the Stripper appears to understand that they are page
numbers and treats them accordingly.  However, I haven't been looking that
close at them, though, because I don't recall having worked on a book which
had them.  My advice would be to treat them as if they were arabic page
numbers, then download the book once it makes it into the collection and see
what happened.  I'll try to pay closer attention when I validate a book with
roman numerals to see exactly what is happening.

 

HTH

 

Gerald

 


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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Monica Cortada
Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 7:26 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Stripper and Preliminary Pages

 

What would be the ideal treatment of the first few pages of a book like the
title page?  Should a placeholder header be put here for the stripper to
strip?

 

Also, what should be done with the roman numeral page numbers at the
beginning of a book?  

 

Sorry to have so many questions and thanks for your patience.

 

Monica in Maryland


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