[bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
- From: "k4zq" <k4zq@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:07:49 -0400
Amy,
Seems as though my friend Evan is short on patience. The reference we were
eluding to is from "The Two Towers" Book 4, chapter 4 "Of Herbs and Stewed
Rabbits."
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:00 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
Sorry I stepped on toes. The goblins must have gotten into my mail and I
missed that one. I did get references but I don't remember getting one with
the exact quotation and the word "fissures". I would have remembered as I have
an image in my mind of the cavity but not one from the movie as I have
deliberately tried to forget the movies and gave away my copies. I have seen
illustrations of the quartet of books over the years in the calendars as well
as elsewhere and it may have been one of those which I remember but it gave no
view of the bottom. Again, sorry I missed your email.
----Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
Maybe you should read your mail more carefully. If you had, you would have
noticed that I quoted Sam's references to pans from The Two Towers last week.
I am a little miffed that you would imply that I hadn't supplied facts to back
up my assertion that he used pans. I even said that I had looked it up. It is
true that I didn't mention that the quotes were from The Two Towers, but I
would have thought that you would have known that because the incident the
quotes came from was mentioned in the discussion. Perhaps you don't know the
books very well.
Finally some facts, indeed!
----- Original Message -----
From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
Sanity and facts finally. Thanks.
Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: Estelnalissi
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:46 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
Dear Tolkien Booksharians,
Sam would be touched that his beloved pans garnered so much attention.
This one's for you, Sam.
"'And he (Stinker) isn't going to mess with my pans!' With that he
carried all the gear away to one of the many gaping fissures that scored the
land and threw them in. The clatter of his precious pans as they fell down in
to the dark was like a death-knell to his heart."
BTW
Peter Jackson expressed remorse that he didn't make more of this
emotional moment in his ROTK film
Always with love,
Lissi
"Maybe I should write a book called one hundred and one ways to use a
frying pan."
Sam Gamgee
in Tolkien fanfiction by Alatariel
----- Original Message -----
From: Amy Goldring Tajalli
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 12:51 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
I still must rely on memory as the books are not readily available (I
can check later if anyone wants me to) but I do believe that nowhere else in
the trilogy are the pans specified except as "cooking gear" which, as has been
said, was left in the depression (aptly named I think) as it was not said to be
a hole or bottomless but it was never detail until the " stewed coneys" and, I
think, an earlier reference to the lack of salt which Sam forgot.
Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: k4zq
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:25 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
Glad you corrected me, Evan.
My skin ai'nt that thin.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 6:33 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
You are forgiven, but it is a grave offense to get something like
that wrong; so please watch it. <grin>
Besides, maybe you are the one who should forgive me. After
having looked up the matter for someone else, and having said so, I may have
been a bit terse.
----- Original Message -----
From: k4zq
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 9:49 AM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
Evan,
Meant to indicate that the memory was foggy. On further
thought, believe sam did say something about Golum getting into hot watter if
he damaged one of "my pans."
Forgive.
Ernie
----- Original Message -----
From: Evan Reese
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Sam's cooking gear
He used pans to stew the rabits, as I have already shown.
----- Original Message -----
From: k4zq
To: books ` list
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:41 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Sam's cooking gear
Sam used a small pot to stew his rabbits, but when he
dumped his gear in Mordor, there were a couple of pans. One of them may have
been a frying pan, but right now, can't remember.
Ernie
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