[bksvol-discuss] Re: Returning Member Intro and Question

Hi Evan,

You are so right about the hit-and-miss treatment of ellipsis within the same 
document; or within the same page. It makes for a lot of confusion. Like you, I 
delete the spaces. It would be nice if the new volunteer manual would address 
this.

Blessings.

Lynnsky

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: EVAN REESE 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 9:15 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Returning Member Intro and Question


  Certainly, the Bookshare braille translator does not delete the spaces 
between periods. I've seen countless examples of this. Nor does the braille 
translator in my Pac Mate delete the spaces. In these cases, ellipses only 
appear the way they should in braille if the periods have no spaces between 
them. Apparently, in the cases I'm familiar with, the people who write braille 
translation software expect the periods to be without spaces between them.

  Also, the OCR engines in K1000 and OpenBook are ambiguous about the matter. 
I've seen periods with and without spaces in the same book, and sometimes two 
periods with no spaces, followed by a space and then another period, or every 
other combination of periods and spaces.

  Given all this, I remove the spaces when I encounter them.

  Evan

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mickey 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 7:07 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Returning Member Intro and Question


    Usually, in print, the elipsis (three dots) are spaced. I leave it that 
way, because it's the way it should be, and because any braille translation 
program with delete the spaces.

    Mickey

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      From: Rogerbailey81@xxxxxxx 
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      Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:58 PM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Returning Member Intro and Question


      The spaces are not there in print.

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      Hi List,
         I was on this list years ago, and thought I'd rejoin for a while to
      see what the volunteer community is talking about. (I'm also currently
      unemployed, so I guess you could say I've got the time). Anyway, I'm
      Eliza from New York City.
         I've also got a question, and though this is a pretty trivial
      detail, I've wondered about it forever.  When you see an elipsis in
      text, like when a speaker is cut off by another character, often I see
      the three periods and the close quotation mark all separated by spaces
      (so it would be . . . ").  I sometimes take the interveneing spaces
      out so that the last word, the elipsis and the close quote are all
      connected, because I think this is always how it appears in braille.
      Is this correct?  In print, are the spaces always present, or is this
      something OpenBook is doing?
         Thanks,
         Eliza
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