Thanks for this idea. I did do that, and it still had all the blank pages. I actually realeased it late last night, because I have another book to validate, but I might go and grab it again if it's still there when I'm done this other one. Work and school are picking up this week, so doing all that the short story one required would be tough right now. Cait -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 1:24 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: K1000 and editing .rtf files question Hi Caitlyn, Before you release the book, you could try this. Rename the file that you have been working with just slightly. For instance, if the name of the file is now Royal Pain In The Butt.rtf, rename it to Royal Pain In The Butt1.rtf. Now, extract the file from the zip file again. If you have changed the conversion settings so that K1000 will not split long pages, you can now see how many pages the file originally had, in case the number of pages was inflated by Kurzweil upon your opening it originally there. That might help you to know which pages to delete and which to keep. I tell you to rename your original file because if you don't rename it slightly, when you extract the file from the zip file, unless you extract it to a different folder, it will want to over write the file already there with the same name. You don't want to do that, as the file that will be overwritten will be the one containing any changes you have made to the book. That would be catastrophic., or at least it would feel that way to me. Something that might have happened, if you discover that both files have all of these blank pages, telling you that Kurzweil is not the culprit for having added extra pages, is that the scanner may have had his recognition settings to recognize two pages per scan but only had one page on the scanner. That can result in blank pages between all pages with print on them. None of this will help you get rid of the blank pages if they were there in the file originally uploaded to Bookshare as a submission, but it may all help you to know why this annoyance occurred. If you're very lucky, the original file won't have all of those blank pages and you can just delete from your file that you've been working on the pages that shouldn't be there. It is tedious, but would allow you to know for certain which blank pages to delete. Happy hunting! Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Nicky Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 2:28 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: K1000 and editing .rtf files question Thanks, Mayrie. I made the change, and it should help future books. The current one is still vastly inflated with blank pages which don't appear to be used for anything except for maybe visual seperation. I'm tempted to release this back to the queue for validation, but honestly, I've already done so much work on it I'd not feel right about doing that. Cait -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:51 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: K1000 and editing .rtf files question Hi Cait, Because you're working with rtf files, you'll want to disable "split long pages" for rtf files in the conversion settings as you said. It wouldn't hurt to have the same setting apply to txt files as well. It can't hurt. And just to clarify, you'll want to match the number of pages in Word and Kurzweil immediately upon accessing the file once you download it to validate, as well as just before uploading. That way you can know where glitches occur if they do. I personally don't work with a file in kes format or in Kurzweil if the number of pages doesn't match upon first looking at the file in Word and Kurzweil immediately after downloading a book for validation. My thinking for this is that if Kurzweil doesn't show the same number of pages (and you want to make sure that those are pages marked by hard page breaks only, not by soft page breaks in Word) then Kurzweil isn't interpreting something in the rtf file properly and might have trouble elsewhere with that file. Happy validating. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Nicky Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 12:23 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: K1000 and editing .rtf files question Hi, I'm using version 11 of K1000. Is this split long pages option in the converstion menu/options for .txt or .rtf files? I'm ok with bouncing back and forth between formats, problem is, I know just enough in both K1000 and Word to be dangerous, but I am slightly more familiar with K1000 then with Word. What you said about checking the number of pages in both programs before submitting the final edited book makes perfect sense, though, and I'll have a look around and change that one setting if I can find it. Cait -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mayrie ReNae Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 11:44 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: K1000 and editing .rtf files question Hi Caitlyn, Could you tell us, please, what version of Kurzweil 1000 you're using? If you are using version 11 of K1000, you need to have the "split long pages" option disabled under conversion settings. Not having this done can result in extra blank pages in your document. It is generally not recommended to convert back and forth between formats. I have on occasion converted to kes format and then back to rtf for final uploading as you suggest, but you need to make sure before you do this that the number of pages is the same in Word as in K1000 before converting. It is simpler to work with the rtf file in Word, if K1000 is giving you trouble, if you have limited experience bouncing between formats and knowing what to look for to make sure nothing gets lost in conversion. Sorry, I haven't had any coffee yet, and can't remember what pitfalls might await you if you convert to kes format. Not helpful, I know. I'll try to think more clearly later, if you still have questions. As far as I know, there is no way to make control characters such as page breaks visible like there is in Word when using Kurzweil 1000. However, if you would like to merge two pages, you can do so by placing your cursor on the second of the two pages that you'd like to merge then press control plus shift plus enter. That's an alternative to the erase page feature, when the second page is blank, though no fewer keystrokes. Hope some of that helps. Mayrie -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Caitlyn and Nicky Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 7:56 AM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] K1000 and editing .rtf files question Hi Everybody, I am trying to edit a book using K1000. This particular book has a *ton* of useless blank pages which I am attempting to get rid of. It also has some scanner extra chacters which I am editing out. I've read through a lot of this book and made the changes I want to make, and saved the file every time I made a change(paranoid, maybe??).. When I opened the file today, none of the changes "stuck". Would it be better to do .rtf files in Word, or would it be better to convert the m to a .kes file, edit them, then convert back to .rtf? 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