[bksvol-discuss] Re: Fwd: Latin books
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:50:07 -0700 (PDT)
Carrie--forget my last post. Stupid me-- of course you
know--even if you didn't "know" Lena, you'd know from
her email address (smile).
Lena, welcome backto the list. I hope you stick
around.
Cindy
--- Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Pratik,
>
> I skipped the download and restart steps of your
> process, but otherwise did just as you suggested,
> when I was at the office on Monday. If only English
> had been selected, it should have taken about 30
> minutes to OCR the 500 pages of the 2 Latin books,
> but the OCR program was still running when I had to
> leave 3 hours later, after selecting both languages.
> OCRing with multiple languages really slows the
> program down dramatically. I'll see how it turned
> out when I go in this morning. I'm going to send
> the Latin books to Lena when I'm all done, so if
> there's a problem, maybe a sighted person can figure
> out what's wrong.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions and help! Carrie
>
> Pratik Patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm a bit late on this thread, but FYI FineReader
> does permit the selection of multiple simultaneous
> languages for recognition. I should have specified.
> Current OCR technology is based on multiple
> algorithms. Not only do OCR programs attempt to
> recognize the available texts from scans, but
> language selection as well. Language
> characteristics are often important in OCR and a
> good OCR program will use those to define accuracy.
> Latin's grammatical structure can be quite useful.
> In fact, I would guess that Latinis easier to OCR
> than ENglish is. The other reason why I suggest
> that you choose Latin as one of your languages is
> that Latin's vowels often contain Macrons--a
> hyphin-like character located above a particular
> vowel defined by certain rules. These are
> absolutely essential in grammar, pronunciation, and
> Latin reading. A student looking at a grammar book
> should not miss this important aspect. If a student
> will be using this book in a classroom, I would also
> recomme
> nd that
> his/her school request an electronic copy of the
> text from the publisher as well.
>
>
> In FineReader 7, do the following to choose multiple
> languagess.
>
> 1. Go to Tools/Options
> 2. Choose the "recognition" tab
> 3. In the language combo box, choose "download more
> languages."
> 4. In the resulting list, scroll to the bottom of
> the list and check the "all other languages" option
> 5. Tab or click on the download button. (be sure
> you have an active internet connection.
> 6. Once download is complete, you will be asked to
> close and restart FineReader.
> 7. Once FineReader is restarted, go back to
> tools/options/recognition.
> 8. Choose the "edit languages" button
> 9. You will find multiple languages listed in a tree
> view. Check the languages that you are most likely
> to use.
> 10. Be sure to check the box that says "show
> languages in the list."
> 11. In the language selection box, scroll up to the
> option to "choose multiple languages."
> 12. in the resulting list, check the languages you
> wish to use for the current session (English and
> Latin).
> 13. Choose Ok.
> 14. In the language selection list you will see
> english and Latin both listed. Choose close.
>
> I hope this helps. I'm happy to answer any other
> questions.
>
> Pratik
>
> ---------------------------------
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Carrie Karnos
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:27 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fwd: Latin books
>
>
>
> If I leave the language as English, every Latin word
> will be flagged as misspelled, even though it's not.
> Of course, if I choose Latin, every English word
> will be flagged as misspelled. Can't win! I wish
> there was some way to say, there are 2 languages in
> this book, check that the word is in one language or
> the other before you flag it as misspelled. I
> assume that ABBYY is not that sophisticated yet....
> or is it? Someone please tell me that that option
> already exists. :-)
>
> I'll email you, Pratik, when the book is in the
> download queue, so you can validate it.
>
> Thanks! Carrie
>
> Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On behalf of Lena, and myself, thank you, Pratik.
>
> I'm curious, though--when I took first and
> second-year
> Latin in high school, the letters, i.e., fonts, were
> like English letters, unlike the non-romance
> languages
> I''ve seen. It was as easy to read the Latin (not
> translate, of course, until I'd learned) as the
> English. Why would Carrie have to change the
> recognition language on the scanner? Just curious.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> -- Pratik Patel
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all!
> >
> > I'll be happy to validate this little grammar
> text.
> > Carrie, you will have to choose Latin as your
> > recognition language with FineReader when you OCR
> > this text. Please let me know when the text is up.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pratik
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Cindy"
>
> > Sent: 9/23/05 3:04:34 AM
> > To:
> >
> "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fwd: Latin books
> >
> > Thanks, Carrie. Yes, breaking the spine and
> feeding
> > in
> > the pages is o.k. I told Lena to send the book to
> > you
> > at Benetech. Your address is a bit more detailed
> > than
> > the one that Geald gave me, so I'll send that to
> > her.
> >
> > Like Gerald, I'm not sure who would validate it.
> > Hopefully Guido or Pratik, at least one of whom,
> if
> > not both, are linguists. Perhaps after it's
> scanned,
> >
> > if one of them is willing you could send the pages
> > to
> > them. If neither is, I mght give it a try. It
> would
> > be
> > a good review for me--after 56 years.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > --- Carrie Karnos wrote:
> >
> > &g t; Bookshare.org
> > > The Benetech Initiative
> > > 480 California Avenue
> > > Suite 201
> > > Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609
> > >
> > > (It's under the 'Contact Us' section at the
> bottom
> > > on the right side of the home screen.)
> > >
> > > I can certainly scan any books sent to
> Bookshare,
> > > but please remember that I will de-spine the
> book,
> > > basically killing it. Is that okay???
> > >
> > > Carrie
> > >
> > > Cindy
> wrote:
> > > Hi, All,
> > >
> > > I'm forwarding our fellow booksharian's note
> about
> > > the
> > > Latin book.
> > >
> > > Apparently she can obtain that one and is
> willing
> > to
> > > send it to be scanned, as you can see. Carrie,
> I'm
> > > suggesting she send it to you at benetech, but I
> > > couldn't find the address at the site, either at
> > the
> > > volunteer page or the home page, following
> several
> > > of
> > > the threads, and I've never noted the address
> when
> > > it's been posted here, since I never thought to
> > use
> > > it. I'd appreciate it if someone would post it
> > > again.
> > > I guess this time I'd better note it in case I'm
> > > ever
> > > asked for it again.
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > >
> > > > Here's the Latin grammar I'd like, although
> I'd
> > be
> > > > happy with anything.
> > > >
> > > > Wheelock's Latin
> > > >
> > > > Frederic M. Wheelock,
> > > > Richard A. LaFleur
> > > >
> > > > ISBN: 0060783710 (paperback).
> > > >
> > > > I'm willing to supply the book and take it
> apart
> > > if
> > > > a document feeder is used.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ;
> > >
> > >
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