[bksvol-discuss] Re: Fwd: Latin books
- From: Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:48:43 -0700 (PDT)
Carrie, you do know that Lena isn't sighted, don't
you? Or do you mean that you're sending the actual
book so she can have someone compare it with the book
file?
Cindy
--- Carrie Karnos <ckarnos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Pratik,
>
> I skipped the download and restart steps of your
> process, but otherwise did just as you suggested,
> when I was at the office on Monday. If only English
> had been selected, it should have taken about 30
> minutes to OCR the 500 pages of the 2 Latin books,
> but the OCR program was still running when I had to
> leave 3 hours later, after selecting both languages.
> OCRing with multiple languages really slows the
> program down dramatically. I'll see how it turned
> out when I go in this morning. I'm going to send
> the Latin books to Lena when I'm all done, so if
> there's a problem, maybe a sighted person can figure
> out what's wrong.
>
> Thanks for your suggestions and help! Carrie
>
> Pratik Patel <pratikp1@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm a bit late on this thread, but FYI FineReader
> does permit the selection of multiple simultaneous
> languages for recognition. I should have specified.
> Current OCR technology is based on multiple
> algorithms. Not only do OCR programs attempt to
> recognize the available texts from scans, but
> language selection as well. Language
> characteristics are often important in OCR and a
> good OCR program will use those to define accuracy.
> Latin's grammatical structure can be quite useful.
> In fact, I would guess that Latinis easier to OCR
> than ENglish is. The other reason why I suggest
> that you choose Latin as one of your languages is
> that Latin's vowels often contain Macrons--a
> hyphin-like character located above a particular
> vowel defined by certain rules. These are
> absolutely essential in grammar, pronunciation, and
> Latin reading. A student looking at a grammar book
> should not miss this important aspect. If a student
> will be using this book in a classroom, I would also
> recomme
> nd that
> his/her school request an electronic copy of the
> text from the publisher as well.
>
>
> In FineReader 7, do the following to choose multiple
> languagess.
>
> 1. Go to Tools/Options
> 2. Choose the "recognition" tab
> 3. In the language combo box, choose "download more
> languages."
> 4. In the resulting list, scroll to the bottom of
> the list and check the "all other languages" option
> 5. Tab or click on the download button. (be sure
> you have an active internet connection.
> 6. Once download is complete, you will be asked to
> close and restart FineReader.
> 7. Once FineReader is restarted, go back to
> tools/options/recognition.
> 8. Choose the "edit languages" button
> 9. You will find multiple languages listed in a tree
> view. Check the languages that you are most likely
> to use.
> 10. Be sure to check the box that says "show
> languages in the list."
> 11. In the language selection box, scroll up to the
> option to "choose multiple languages."
> 12. in the resulting list, check the languages you
> wish to use for the current session (English and
> Latin).
> 13. Choose Ok.
> 14. In the language selection list you will see
> english and Latin both listed. Choose close.
>
> I hope this helps. I'm happy to answer any other
> questions.
>
> Pratik
>
> ---------------------------------
> From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Carrie Karnos
> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 11:27 AM
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fwd: Latin books
>
>
>
> If I leave the language as English, every Latin word
> will be flagged as misspelled, even though it's not.
> Of course, if I choose Latin, every English word
> will be flagged as misspelled. Can't win! I wish
> there was some way to say, there are 2 languages in
> this book, check that the word is in one language or
> the other before you flag it as misspelled. I
> assume that ABBYY is not that sophisticated yet....
> or is it? Someone please tell me that that option
> already exists. :-)
>
> I'll email you, Pratik, when the book is in the
> download queue, so you can validate it.
>
> Thanks! Carrie
>
> Cindy <popularplace@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On behalf of Lena, and myself, thank you, Pratik.
>
> I'm curious, though--when I took first and
> second-year
> Latin in high school, the letters, i.e., fonts, were
> like English letters, unlike the non-romance
> languages
> I''ve seen. It was as easy to read the Latin (not
> translate, of course, until I'd learned) as the
> English. Why would Carrie have to change the
> recognition language on the scanner? Just curious.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> -- Pratik Patel
> wrote:
>
> > Hello all!
> >
> > I'll be happy to validate this little grammar
> text.
> > Carrie, you will have to choose Latin as your
> > recognition language with FineReader when you OCR
> > this text. Please let me know when the text is up.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Pratik
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Cindy"
>
> > Sent: 9/23/05 3:04:34 AM
> > To:
> >
> "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
> > Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fwd: Latin books
> >
> > Thanks, Carrie. Yes, breaking the spine and
> feeding
> > in
> > the pages is o.k. I told Lena to send the book to
> > you
> > at Benetech. Your address is a bit more detailed
> > than
> > the one that Geald gave me, so I'll send that to
> > her.
> >
> > Like Gerald, I'm not sure who would validate it.
> > Hopefully Guido or Pratik, at least one of whom,
> if
> > not both, are linguists. Perhaps after it's
> scanned,
> >
> > if one of them is willing you could send the pages
> > to
> > them. If neither is, I mght give it a try. It
> would
> > be
> > a good review for me--after 56 years.
> >
> > Cindy
> >
> >
> > --- Carrie Karnos wrote:
> >
> > &g t; Bookshare.org
> > > The Benetech Initiative
> > > 480 California Avenue
> > > Suite 201
> > > Palo Alto, CA 94306-1609
> > >
> > > (It's under the 'Contact Us' section at the
> bottom
> > > on the right side of the home screen.)
> > >
> > > I can certainly scan any books sent to
> Bookshare,
> > > but please remember that I will de-spine the
> book,
> > > basically killing it. Is that okay???
> > >
> > > Carrie
> > >
> > > Cindy
> wrote:
> > > Hi, All,
> > >
> > > I'm forwarding our fellow booksharian's note
> about
> > > the
> > > Latin book.
> > >
> > > Apparently she can obtain that one and is
> willing
> > to
> > > send it to be scanned, as you can see. Carrie,
> I'm
> > > suggesting she send it to you at benetech, but I
> > > couldn't find the address at the site, either at
> > the
> > > volunteer page or the home page, following
> several
> > > of
> > > the threads, and I've never noted the address
> when
> > > it's been posted here, since I never thought to
> > use
> > > it. I'd appreciate it if someone would post it
> > > again.
> > > I guess this time I'd better note it in case I'm
> > > ever
> > > asked for it again.
> > >
> > > Cindy
> > >
> > > > Here's the Latin grammar I'd like, although
> I'd
> > be
> > > > happy with anything.
> > > >
> > > > Wheelock's Latin
> > > >
> > > > Frederic M. Wheelock,
> > > > Richard A. LaFleur
> > > >
> > > > ISBN: 0060783710 (paperback).
> > > >
> > > > I'm willing to supply the book and take it
> apart
> > > if
> > > > a document feeder is used.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > ;
> > >
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