[bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: Em-dashes
- From: juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
- To: "bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 23:27:05 -0400 (EDT)
me too, smile.
I used to struggle with my reading assignments in large print.
And then my freshman Year in college I got my first scanner and copy of
Kurzweil 5 and I haven't looked back since. I love the fact that if I ee a
book that is interesting to me, it is a seventy five percent chance maybe
more that I can access it using a scanner, and Kerri has given me several of
the books that I couldn't have scanned, and has done them so well.
Rent by Jonathan Larson has been floating around my room from when i was an
undergraduate. It was too large and I couldn't see the white text on the
black background.
when I found out Kerri would be willing to edit it, I mailed it in, and now,
I can read it, smile.
Which is an awesome feeling.
Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
and Judson, guiding golden
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Alumni Association Board
www.guidedogs.com
Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
Puppies are the joy at one end.
Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
Carolyn Alexander
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From: "Katie Star" <kaitlyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 10:07 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: Em-dashes
HI Shelley,
Yes, the national library does have some first class readers!
Though all things aside. Getting a scanner a year ago February and joining
bookshare has opened up a whole new world for me. To all the scanners and
validators... Keep up the good work!!!
Katie Hill
Miracles happen not in opposition to Nature, but in opposition to
what we know of Nature.
-St. Augustine
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From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Estelnalissi
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 6:28 PM
To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: Em-dashes
Dear Shelly and Mickey,
No doubt about it, NLS is the Cadillac of braille. My way of showing my
appreciation is by having an NLS hard copy braille book going at all times.
However, when I was growing up, our family never owned a Cadillac nor even a
new car of any model. Used and less luxurious transportation never failed
us. Arriving at the destination was the point, as delivering a wider variety
of books is Bookshare's point. In that it has succeeded and outdistanced my
expectations. It's rocked my intellectual and entertainment worlds and
allowed me to do volunteer work I love.
It has been very interesting reading about the NLS process for creating
their great volumes, though even I find a misplaced dot every few hundred
pages.
On the other hand, I've got a slew of bookshare brf files lined up to go on
to a flash card and then to my braille note. Especially in the excellent
files and sometimes in the good ones, the corners bookshare has to cut to
make the enormous wealth of books available to us don't disturb me. I'm
aware with every line I read that without bookshare this book would be a
beloved and longed for object with nothing in it's print pages to say to me.
I persisted in discussing 2 main topics because it was important for me to
get to the bottom line and understand what I should and should not be doing
as a validator. I'm cool now...until I discover another glitch where I
realize I don't know what I'm doing.
Always with love,
Lissi
----- Original Message -----
From: <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 7:44 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: Em-dashes
> The answer is, that NLS does do most to all of their Braille by hand.
>
> The ladies here at the Cleveland Sight Center, don't even scan and OCR
> their
> stuff when they translate textbooks for local schools, they type them by
> hand. NLS actually doesn't do any of the Braille themselves, it is done
> by
> Braille transcribers working around the U.S. even Duxbury and Monty, and
> Mega Dots do a lot of mistakes that a good proofreader goes in and finds
> them and sorts them out. Look at National Braille Press, they use "jiffy
> Braille" which means no proof reading when they make the zinc plates to
> publish the books which is why the books are cheap. And yes NBP
> acknowledges that their books have errors, and I have found several, not
> glaring, but certainly not stuff that would pass muster with a NLS
> proofreader.
>
> To get truly great formatted Braille, you do have to read it, and know
> what
> the rules are. Which is my friend the reason NLS only adds about one
> hundred Braille titles a year.
>
> The same time and attention is put into their recorded books and their
> narrators get paid by the "good recorded minute". They have to research
> pronunciations, preview the book several times to make sure of pauses and
> the rest and even explore the pronunciations of the particular languages
> that are used in certain books.
>
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
> and Judson, guiding golden
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> Graduate Alumni Association Board
> www.guidedogs.com
>
> Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
> Puppies are the joy at one end.
> Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
> Carolyn Alexander
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Evan Reese" <mentat1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 12:46 AM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Fw: Em-dashes
>
>
> Thanks, Jana. But that brings up a question: If NLS can put out such
> good
> Braille, why can't Bookshare do what they do. Surely, they don't do it by
> hand, do they? Or do they? If they use software to get such nearly
> perfect
> translation, why can't Bookshare just use that instead of all this talk
> about why the translator can't do m dashes correctly? How does NLS do
> their
> translation? Does anyone here know the answer? Maybe some proprietary
> government-only software that noone else can have access to?
>
> Thanks.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jana Jackson
> To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 9:32 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Fw: Em-dashes
>
>
> Hi, Everyone! Here is a response from Jim Fruchterman regarding the
> question of em-dashes. Sorry, I just realized that I forgot to send it
> over
> last night. <Smile>
>
> Jana
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Fruchterman
> To: Jana Jackson ; Gustavo Galindo
> Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:38 PM
> Subject: RE: Em-dashes
>
>
> Thanks, Jana. I took a look at the digest from Saturday, and I assume the
> answer is that we don't want to move away from the way the book was
> printed:
> we have made a commitment to publishers and authors to work to bring the
> scanned texts closer to the original. If we have a preference from
> Braille
> readers to change our Duxbury output, I'd rather keep the focus on that.
>
>
>
> Jim Fruchterman
>
> jim@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
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