Actually, in speech, grade 2 braille reads like the punctuation it is. For example: ,? is :at brl s.ds l :5 2+ r,d ) spee*4 Translation: This is what braille sounds like when being read with speech. -----Original Message----- From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of siss52 Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:38 PM To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: BRF Hi Dave, The contractions and their meanings would have to be programmed into the software program. Some do this and some don't. Normally, Braille just looks like garbage on a print monitor, and in speech someone told me it would probably say graphics and symbols or something like that. Sue ----- Original Message ----- From: <talmage@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 1:22 PM Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: BRF Hi Mike, Do you know of a source on the Internet where I can find out the rules for translating txt to brf? thanks, Dave At 01:55 PM 12/16/2004, you wrote: >Dave > >Certain contractions can have a different meaning given the context. >The combo dots 2,5, as an example, can mean double "c" or "con" dependent >upon how it is placed. >The combo "3,4,5" ccan be used to indicate "ar" as in "carry" or be a part >of a number's square root. >The combo "2,6" can be the word "enough" or the contraction for "en" if >attached to a word. >Back translators do quite well; just not 100% -- and I think that is the >point. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.816 / Virus Database: 554 - Release Date: 12/14/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.816 / Virus Database: 554 - Release Date: 12/14/2004