[bksvol-discuss] Re: Advice needed for submission with no page numbers

  • From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2006 10:39:57 -0400

I meant page numbers, smile.

I see my mistake this morning.

It does keep page breaks, but on several of the books I am currently 
scanning the page numbers are not coming out.


Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
and Judson, guiding golden
juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
Graduate Alumni Association Board
www.guidedogs.com

Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
 Puppies are the joy at one end.
 Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
Carolyn Alexander

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jake Brownell" <jabrown@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:11 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Advice needed for submission with no page 
numbers


Hi Shelley,

In older versions of K1000, it may have missed a page break here and there
if you had scanned two pages but only one of them had text, or the OCR
engine thought the two pages were two columns. You can reference the release
notes for exact details on the upgrade.

All that said, if you're missing significant numbers of page breaks, are you
sure the BrailleNote isn't at fault? Either application could be the
culpret, although I cannot speak for how accurate the BrailleNote is, having
never used one.

Jake
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shelley L. Rhodes" <juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:06 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Advice needed for submission with no page
numbers


> Not all the time.  K 1000 did not keep the page breaks in several of the
> books I am editiong on the BN.
>
> Shelley L. Rhodes B.S. Ed, CTVI
> and Judson, guiding golden
> juddysbuddy@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Guide Dogs For the Blind Inc.
> Graduate Alumni Association Board
> www.guidedogs.com
>
> Dog ownership is like a rainbow.
> Puppies are the joy at one end.
> Old dogs are the treasure at the other.
> Carolyn Alexander
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Monica Willyard" <plumlipstick@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:45 PM
> Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: Advice needed for submission with no page
> numbers
>
>
> Elizabeth, though I agree that page numbers are useful, there is a
> wide variety of OCR technology in use by submitters.  K1000 handles
> page numbers fairly well, and I know you're used to that.  However,
> Openbook and Omnipage make a mess of most headers and page
> numbers.  Requiring page breaks in files was relatively easy to
> enforce, especially since most OCR packages insert them
> automatically.  Page numbering is not an automated feature in
> Openbook, though it might be in K1000.  I could go in and guess at
> page numbers if it were a requirement, but would my guess be
> accurate?  Probably not since I'd just number the pages in order.  If
> I did that, it would be the equivalent of what the Bookshare tools do
> now, so you'd get the same results.  As a validater, you may have no
> way of knowing how accurate my page numbers are without access to the
> print book, so how could you standardize the process?  Most of our
> submitters don't even strip headers right now.  Do you think that
> they will make time to check each page number?  I know for sure that
> I wouldn't.  I'd strip headers automatically, use Word to number my
> pages, and let the powers that be figure it out on their end.
>
> Monica Willyard
>
> At Wednesday 10/18/2006 06:51 PM, you wrote:
>>Cannot imagine what is taking them so long in changing so that page
>>numbers are a requirment.  On the other hand, we had talked about
>>getting rid of .txt files for over eighteen months before they
>>finally were banned.  I guess these things take a long long time to
>>resolve somehow.
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