[bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks

  • From: "Estelnalissi" <airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:41:24 -0400

Hi,

Thanks for the offer. I'll try Sarah's suggestion first, but would love an 
experienced person's determination if there are or are not page breaks. Once I 
know that, I'd be happy to do the rest of the job of validating myself.

Would you be willing to work with me just about the page break question off 
list. I would rather give you the name of the book off list. If it was a book 
I'd worked on,  I wouldn't want the whole list to know I'd been returnnewed and 
donedone and all of that, hahahaha

Thanks,

Always With Love,

airadil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

Lissi 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Silvara 
  To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 5:26 PM
  Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks


  Hi Lissi:

  What is the title of the book on download page?
  I can check it out for you.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Estelnalissi 
    To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 3:11 PM
    Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks


    Dear Natalie,

    Like you, I check each page break manually with the arrow keys. I'm not 
only checking that the break is there, but also verifying that the spacing for 
the page number if it's at the top of the page  has a blank line above and 
below it. I mostly use the arrow anyway so I won't miss some little detail that 
could use fixing. Since I'm not validating for the fifty cents, I'm one of 
those volunteers who wants the book to be squeaky clean when I submit it. It's 
both a challenge and matter of pride.


    You know, I'm actually not positive about what I'm doing. One way I 
conclude  there's a page break is that jaws says a page number in a lower voice 
which isn't always the number before the actual number on the page that 
follows. Those low voiced numbers can be as  many as ten pages different from 
the book's numbering. I wind up keeping  track of both, figuring neither should 
have skipped numbers.

    Keep asking questions, Natalie. I learn from them too though I didn't 
understand Gerald's answer to your question about soft page breaks. I think it 
doesn't matter if I get the difference between soft and hard breaks since I 
just use that arrow and seem to find them....I hope!

    Always With Love,

    Lissi
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Natalie 
      To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:44 PM
      Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks


      Hi, and thanks for your help.  I guess what I was looking for was a way 
to be able to detect a page break while reading with the insert two for say all 
so I didn't have to arrow line by line, but I guess I will just have to arrow 
to find the page breaks and just a bit slower in my reading.  That's fine 
though, and thanks for your help.
      Natalie
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Gerald Hovas 
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:14 PM
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks


        Natalie,

        From what I remember of using Word Perfect back in the DOS days, Spg 
does mean soft page break or one that occurs in Word Perfect because of the 
page length.  HPg means hard page break and occurs because Word Perfect 
encounters a Page Break character.

        If I understood you correctly, you said you were reading a book from 
the collection in Word Perfect.  That would be why you don't see any hard page 
breaks in the book.  I don't believe HTML and XML allow hard page breaks, 
therefore, the hard page breaks would be removed as part of the processing to 
turn the book into a DAISY book.  I don't think the locations of the hard page 
breaks are lost, however, in the DAISY books.  It's been two or three years 
since I read a description of the DAISY standard, but from what I remember, my 
impression was that the information is recorded in one of the additional files 
that are included with the XML file in the DAISY books along with other 
navigation information like the location of specific pages and chapters.

        Try using Reveal Codes on a book downloaded from the Step 1 page, 
either a new book or one you worked on in the past.  You can also try adding a 
hard page break to a file then looking at it with Reveal Codes turned on.  It 
seems like you insert one using Ctrl-Enter like Word, K-1000, and OpenBook, but 
I could be getting it confused with those software packages, so you might try 
Shift-Enter or just looking up the proper key combination in the Help 
information.

        HTH

        Gerald

        -----Original Message-----
        From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Natalie
        Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:12 AM
        To: bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [bksvol-discuss] A question about page breaks


        Hi everyone.  I know this is probably going to be a stupid question, 
but can anyone tell me how to find page breaks when using Word Perfect?  I'm 
using wq11 and Jaws 6.0 and have been unsuccessful in finding them.  I tried 
reading with reveal codes and could only find spg which I'm assuming means a 
soft page break.  I guess I'm confused because I'm currently reading a book I 
downloaded from the colection because I was trying to test the reveal codes 
thing before I got a another book to validate, and I only found soft page 
breaks in the book.  Or at least, I'm assuming that's what spg means.  Anyway, 
I was just curious so thought I would ask.
        Natalie


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