[bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks

  • From: "Sarah Van Oosterwijck" <curiousentity@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bksvol-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:05:21 -0500

I don't know anything about later versions of Word Perfect, but there is a chance that you could get JAWS to announce the page break character. If you sometime come accross the hard page break character you want JAWS to announce you might try pressing insert-D to open the JAWS pronunciation dictionary. Select add and make sure there is something in the actual word editbox. Don't worry about what kind of weird thing is there, because the weirder the better. :-) Type in what you want JAWS to say when it crosses a page break in the replacement word editBox then hit enter and alt-f4 to exit the dictionary. Say yes to save when JAWS prompts. See if JAWS now reads the page break when it crosses it. If it doesn't you might as well go back in the dictionary and remove the entry so it doesn't waste space. Unfortunately if that doesn't work I don't have any other ideas.

Sarah Van Oosterwijck
Assistive Technology Trainer
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <nataliesgroups@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:44 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks



Hi, and thanks for your help. I guess what I was looking for was a way to be able to detect a page break while reading with the insert two for say all so I didn't have to arrow line by line, but I guess I will just have to arrow to find the page breaks and just a bit slower in my reading. That's fine though, and thanks for your help.
Natalie
----- Original Message ----- From: Gerald Hovas
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Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:14 PM
Subject: [bksvol-discuss] Re: A question about page breaks



Natalie,

From what I remember of using Word Perfect back in the DOS days, Spg does mean soft page break or one that occurs in Word Perfect because of the page length. HPg means hard page break and occurs because Word Perfect encounters a Page Break character.

If I understood you correctly, you said you were reading a book from the collection in Word Perfect. That would be why you don't see any hard page breaks in the book. I don't believe HTML and XML allow hard page breaks, therefore, the hard page breaks would be removed as part of the processing to turn the book into a DAISY book. I don't think the locations of the hard page breaks are lost, however, in the DAISY books. It's been two or three years since I read a description of the DAISY standard, but from what I remember, my impression was that the information is recorded in one of the additional files that are included with the XML file in the DAISY books along with other navigation information like the location of specific pages and chapters.

Try using Reveal Codes on a book downloaded from the Step 1 page, either a new book or one you worked on in the past. You can also try adding a hard page break to a file then looking at it with Reveal Codes turned on. It seems like you insert one using Ctrl-Enter like Word, K-1000, and OpenBook, but I could be getting it confused with those software packages, so you might try Shift-Enter or just looking up the proper key combination in the Help information.

 HTH

 Gerald

-----Original Message-----
From: bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:bksvol-discuss-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:12 AM
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Subject: [bksvol-discuss] A question about page breaks



Hi everyone. I know this is probably going to be a stupid question, but can anyone tell me how to find page breaks when using Word Perfect? I'm using wq11 and Jaws 6.0 and have been unsuccessful in finding them. I tried reading with reveal codes and could only find spg which I'm assuming means a soft page break. I guess I'm confused because I'm currently reading a book I downloaded from the colection because I was trying to test the reveal codes thing before I got a another book to validate, and I only found soft page breaks in the book. Or at least, I'm assuming that's what spg means. Anyway, I was just curious so thought I would ask.
Natalie



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