Like Scott and Mark I've had a big increase in birds at the feeder. The heated water seems to be a hit with all the birds. Lots of goldfinces, juncos, cardinals, and all the normal. No purple finches. Two years ago, I had over 100. At Dad, there are house finches. No pine siskins... Evelyn Morgan Near Grayson Lake --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.