Joe, I use the historical abbreviations from the NGC, i.e. pB, R, etc. except when size is being described. I have a list of my eyepieces and their true FOV in the particular telescope I'm using, so if three of the objects I'm looking at will fit across the diameter of the FOV, and the FOV is 10 arcmin, then I can estimate the size at about 3+ arcmin for the object. I'm not that good at estimating magnitudes so I use pB, pF, vF, etc., unless there's a known comparison star/object also in or nearby the field of the object, but I try and put a number to the size since that's easy to do once the FOV of the eyepiece is known. /Bob -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.