Hello all; I changed the header for this discussion. I agree that consistency is the key and I have tried to get some here and have sometimes done well and sometimes failed miserably. I look back at old notes and wind up with "faint" for an object that last weekend I called "pretty bright"!! Like Andrew said, a better night, I am more rested, or more caffeine loaded, who knows? So, some of my notes show up like "hey, I really know what I am doing here". And other times it is like "crying out loud, is that the same object?". Ya know, space is like really, really BIG. There are plenty of chances to screw up. Matt, the eyepieces are all one element, actually Wm. H. wrote that he preferred them....how is that for ancient technology at work? So, I think I remember that the "large 20 foot" gave a field of view of 17 arc minutes at 157X.....I am willing to be corrected on that one. "Large" 20 foot because it had an 18 inch mirror and he had built a scope with a 20 foot focal length earlier that had a 12 inch mirror. But, the resolution must have been pretty good, he split a lot of close doubles with it and saw a lot of planetary detail. Could not have been too bad. Ya don't need a Barlow with 20 FEET of focal length!! Clear Skies; Steve Coe Author "Deep Sky Observing--The Astronomical Tourist" Saguaro Astronomy Club website www.saguaroastro.org -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.