The climatological forecasts issued by the NWS this week indicate a dry winter for the Southwest US. This is mainly due to developing La Nina conditions in the Pacific. The generic maps, which are run out 14 months in advance, are here: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/two_class.html (click on individual maps for details) .....and the associated yak-yak, mainly dealing with sea surface temperatures, is here: http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/predictions/long_range/fxus05.html The temperature maps are losing usefulness since they are scaled to the 1971-2000 averages---and the warming is happening fast enough now that there is practically no such thing as below average temperatures in the climatological sense. (Good thing they're not using the entire 1890-2000 dataset as the reference.) \Brian -- See message header for info on list archives or unsubscribing, and please send personal replies to the author, not the list.