[AVAPL Members] Re: Licensed Professional Mental Health Counselor

  • From: "Zeiss, Antonette (SES EQV)" <Antonette.Zeiss@xxxxxx>
  • To: "Krieshok, Peggy H (KCVA)" <Peggy.Krieshok@xxxxxx>, <members1@xxxxxxxxx>, "VHAKAN Psychologists" <VHAKANPsychologists@xxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 15:07:59 -0400

Accreditation by an accredited national body is a requirement for all 
professions in VA. That will be true for LMFTs and LPCs also. We are aware that 
not all programs are accredited. This is an essential requirement, however. To 
not have it for these groups would leave us unable to sustain such a 
requirement for Psychologists and Social Workers. 
Toni

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From: Krieshok, Peggy H (KCVA) 
To: 'members1@xxxxxxxxx' ; VHAKAN Psychologists; Zeiss, Antonette (SES EQV) 
Sent: Wed Oct 06 14:46:50 2010
Subject: Re: Licensed Professional Mental Health Counselor 


This gets even more complicated in that the educational requirement for the 
licensed professional mental health counselor is:

 

b. Education. Hold a master’s degree in mental health counseling, or a related 
field, from a program

accredited by the Council on Accreditation of Counseling and Related 
Educational Programs

(CACREP). Examples of related mental health counseling fields include, but are 
not limited to,

Addiction Counseling; Community Counseling; Gerontology Counseling; Marital, 
Couple, and Family

Counseling; and Marriage and Family Therapy. A doctoral degree in mental health 
counseling may not

be substituted for the master’s degree in mental health counseling.

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According to my husband who is on faculty at the Univ of Kansas in the 
Counseling Psychology Program:

CACREP and Div 17 have gone to war about CACREP's new rule that says if a 
faculty member is considered core faculty in an APA accredited program, they 
cannot be considered core faculty in a CACREP program, pretty much ensuring 
departments with APA accredited programs will no longer be able to offer both 
an APA accredited counseling psych program and a CACREP accredited masters 
program, unless they have a lot of faculty.  

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If you go to the CACREP website and look at their directory, you will note that 
most school that have APA programs (as best I can tell at a glance) are not 
listed.  Therefore, I imagine this will incite the APA accredited academic 
programs that also have master’s programs and have students who become licensed 
professional counselors since their students will not be eligible for the jobs 
in the VA.  Also, it seems that these students would likely be some of the most 
capable.

 

 

Peggy H. Krieshok, Ph.D. 
SARRTP Program Manager
VA Medical Center (MH-116A) 
4801 Linwood Blvd. 
Kansas City, MO 64128 
816-922-2681 
peggy.krieshok@xxxxxx <BLOCKED::mailto:peggy.krieshok@xxxxxxxxxx>  

 

From: avaplmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:avaplmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Fischer, Pamela (OKL)
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:52 AM
To: members1@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AVAPL Members] Re: Licensed Professional Mental Health Counselor

 

It is interesting to me that the LPC who is a program manager can be a GS 13 – 
the grade level that many psychologists who manage programs and have years of 
experience cannot move beyond.

 

Pamela C. Fischer, Ph.D.

Director, Primary Care Mental Health #111AC

Veterans Affairs Medical Center -OKC

921 N.E. 13th Street

Oklahoma City, OK 73104

Phone: 405-456-3634

Fax:     405-456--5956

From: avaplmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:avaplmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shorter, George Wiley
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:54 AM
To: members1@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [AVAPL Members] Licensed Professional Mental Health Counselor

 

Colleagues, 

 

As many of you have been awaiting the Qualification Standards for Mental Health 
Counselors, we wanted to share these with you when we first received it. 

 

 

George Shorter, Ph.D.

President, AVAPL

 

 

"The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no 
matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive 
the Veterans of earlier wars were treated and appreciated by their country."   
-George Washington

 

 

 

 


 

Date:  9/29/10                                                  ID#: 2010-25

Policy Office:  Recruitment & Placement Policy Service (059)
Contact:  Kent A. Wellman (Kent.Wellman2@xxxxxx) 
Policy Subject:  VA Handbook 5005, PT II, Chapter 2, Appendix G43, Licensed 
Professional Mental Health Counselor qualification standard.

Handbook Reference: 5005

The attached new VA qualification standard for Licensed Professional Mental 
Health Counselor, GS-101 has been signed.  Since this is a new occupation to VA 
there will NOT be an initial one-time boarding.  Additional implementation 
instructions and guidance will be forthcoming from the Veterans Health 
Administration (VHA).  The new Appendix G43 will be added to the electronic 
version of VA Handbook 5005, Pt II, located at 
http://vaww1.va.gov/ohrm/HRLibrary/Dir-Policy.htm

Questions regarding this Policy Update should be addressed to the Title 38 
Staffing Policy Section, mailto:staffingpolicy059/vaco@xxxxxxx 

Status: Policy Process Step 4

Estimated date of release/implementation:  9/29/2010

This policy alert e-mail is part of a notification process that is intended to 
alert HR Specialists and other interested parties that a new policy or change 
to existing policy is required or being considered. If you have specific 
questions regarding this policy alert, please address them to the contact 
person named above. Policy update e-mails regarding this policy subject will be 
automatically generated according to the policy communication 
schedule/timeline. For more information about this policy alert or the policy 
communication schedule/timeline please go to http://vaww.va.gov/ohrm/ 
<http://vaww1.va.gov/ohrm/>

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