There are certain people who thrive on strife and chaos unfortunately. They make careers out of it. > On Dec 14, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Oh brother. *sigh* > On 12/14/2014 2:10 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >> I don’t either. Maybe only just starting. >>> On Dec 14, 2014, at 1:26 AM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx >>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>> >>> I just think the whole thing is rediculous to be honest with u. All this >>> protesting and fighting. I have a sneaky feeling things aren't over yet. >>> veOn 12/13/2014 10:43 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>> No it isn’t but it furthers certain agendas. The people wanting to push >>>> said agenda have tried it for the past several years but all cases fell >>>> apart. These that are going on now probably will too. The people in >>>> power will pay lip service to the protesters until it actually threatens >>>> them, then watch out. >>>> >>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 10:34 PM, Stacey <crazystacey25@xxxxxxx >>>>> <mailto:crazystacey25@xxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Personally, I think that Michael Brown was in the wrong. The police >>>>> officer was defending himself. Why can't some people get that through >>>>> their heads? Is fighting and protesting really gonna solve anything? >>>>> On 12/13/2014 10:10 PM, Thomas McMahan wrote: >>>>>> I remember when Lou Henson left Illinois or retired out some of them >>>>>> were hoping that the Illini would hire Bruce Pearl on, well they didn’t >>>>>> glad they didn’t. They were already in trouble, he would have probably >>>>>> gotten them in more trouble. >>>>>>> On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:33 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh yeah the NCAA has to be who you know. Take a look at Lane Kieffan, >>>>>>> he leaves and who suffers. I belive the same was true with Bruce Pearl >>>>>>> and the basketball program. Even after Bruce was penalized from >>>>>>> coaching, I think UT suffered penalties. Of course there are going to >>>>>>> be some reprocussions on the program just because the coach is >>>>>>> connected, but in a way I think our teams suffered more than the >>>>>>> coaches. Probably just a biased opinion, but ya know. >>>>>>> Penn State incident is a pathetic joke. There is no way >>>>>>> that it could have went on that long and the situations continued >>>>>>> without someone speaking up about it. >>>>>>> The whole concept of innocent until proven guilty does >>>>>>> not apply anymore. The concept is now guilty until you prove yourself >>>>>>> innocent. Even if the Criminal Justice System sees you as innocent >>>>>>> until proven guilty, the rest of the public are ready to hang you >>>>>>> before they even hear the evidence. A clear example of this occurred >>>>>>> the other day in class. After the Grand Jury came back with a not >>>>>>> guilty verdict in Ferguson my professor asked the classs what they >>>>>>> thought about the incident. The responses were well they knew if they >>>>>>> found him not guilty they were going to have a riot, they should have >>>>>>> just found him guilty to keep the rioting from occurring, he was wrong >>>>>>> for shooting Michael Brown, etc. However, not one person made a comment >>>>>>> regarding the evidence in the case. If you do not follow the directions >>>>>>> of the police expect to be met with reprocussions. If you try to get >>>>>>> the officers gun expect to get shot because I can guarantee that if all >>>>>>> these sideline judges were put in this same situation they would want >>>>>>> to go home to their family as well and not sit idly by and let some >>>>>>> random citizen adolescent or adult take their gun to shoot them with >>>>>>> it. It is insane the autopsy was done, and then if I am not mistaken >>>>>>> Obuma was not satisfied with the results so he ordered another autopsy, >>>>>>> and I think there were a few more autopsies done before they moved >>>>>>> forward. How can you convict a person that was engaging in self >>>>>>> defense? >>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2014 3:55 PM >>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Unfortunately it sounds like in some of >>>>>>>> On the sports media down there they are already convicted. Sounds >>>>>>>> like a convoluted case to me, but I’m sure a lot of them are anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then the NCAA will probably want to threaten UT and the whole 9 yards, >>>>>>> yet Pen State gets off pretty easy. There’s still a lot of idiots >>>>>>> around there that think that school is blameless and inocent with what >>>>>>> went on there. Maybe UT should have set up in a much more isolated >>>>>>> spot like Pen State did. Of course I’m being a smart ass about that, >>>>>>> but that is partially how Pen State has gotten away with a lot more for >>>>>>> much longer. A definite little theefdom there. Meanwhile schools like >>>>>>> OSU get nailed for a lot less and get threatened with the chop. Makes >>>>>>> Illinois’s recruiting violation back in the early 90s look like chump >>>>>>> change too, yet they were threatened with full shut down of all sports >>>>>>> activity. I guess it’s who you know in the NCAA. Which seems to me to >>>>>>> be as clean as the driven slush. I guess in the whole UT situation it >>>>>>> was the school that stepped in and sat them down, but don’t know all of >>>>>>> the details of the whole deal. Guess we’ll hear something though if >>>>>>> they decide to pursue a case on them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dec 13, 2014, at 7:54 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very true. Right now UT is in the hot seat regarding rape allegations >>>>>>> against two of the football players. I just read today that one of the >>>>>>> girl’s boyfriends is on the football team as well. I read on that the >>>>>>> boyfriend caught her, and the girl is on the rowing team. So, there are >>>>>>> more elements to the story, but KPD announced last night that there >>>>>>> investigation was complete and being sent to the D.A.’s office to see >>>>>>> if charges will be pursued. It is a tragic situation either way because >>>>>>> if they are guilty then they have not only ruined their careers, but >>>>>>> also ruined the victims lives. If they are not guilty, then I would say >>>>>>> there will not be a decision until after the bowl game which will >>>>>>> prevent them from playing in the game. Not too mention that if they are >>>>>>> found not guilty there will still be people holding it against them. >>>>>>> So, either way it is a major black mark on these players. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 9:58 PM >>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But a QB who knows how to tuck and run is often not noticed until he’s >>>>>>> gotten 10 yards down the field if he can pull off the fake. If they >>>>>>> then concentrate to much attention looking for him to run then he then >>>>>>> is able to either use a running back or tail back or pass. Thats why >>>>>>> option offense is harder to defend. You have to have a QB that can >>>>>>> take some punishment though, no frail guys as QB, or guys who can’t >>>>>>> work outside of a pocket of protection. For those it’s a disaster for >>>>>>> them to try to run the ball themselves. Does though is in pretty good >>>>>>> shape physically. He’s taken sacks pretty well already this year too. >>>>>>> There have been a few reckless plays, but learning from them will cure >>>>>>> those. But that whole offense well really the whole team is having to >>>>>>> learn because there’s so many freshman on that team this year. They >>>>>>> are already coming together as a unit pretty good, could be quite >>>>>>> interesting even in a couple of years, let alone 3 years from now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2014, at 8:44 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would say the QB also then becomes a target for the rest of the >>>>>>>> teams to take out. So, he needs to be careful or he will be a true red >>>>>>>> shirt. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 3:50 PM >>>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> He did play in the Bamma game, but he wasn’t the starter I don’t >>>>>>>> think. I think they would have at least taken Florida though, and >>>>>>>> maybe Georgia, and that would have changed things a lot for U T. Dobs >>>>>>>> fits in to the type of offense that Butch Jones likes to run which of >>>>>>>> course is an option heavy offense. No problem with that, because your >>>>>>>> QB becomes a direct offensive weapon at that point. It is either >>>>>>>> going to work or not. There isn’t a middle ground, usually it works >>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 2:29 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It does sound like interesting things are happening. I have a feeling >>>>>>>>> that if Josh Dobbs was in at the first of the year the florida game >>>>>>>>> and the Georgia game would have looked much different. I cannot >>>>>>>>> remember if Dobbs played during the Alabama game or not, but I know >>>>>>>>> all their games were close calls this past season. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:43 AM >>>>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even more surprising is that Illinois managed to get in also. Won >>>>>>>>> just enough games in Big 10 this year. It’s been a long time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Interesting baseball trades going on today too. Sox are definitely >>>>>>>>> getting aggressive about trading. Picked up a closer something that >>>>>>>>> they didn’t have last year because the guy they wanted to be closer >>>>>>>>> was hurt early. Then they turn around and pick up Semarja to beef up >>>>>>>>> their starting rotation. Cubs have already been dealing, they don’t >>>>>>>>> have many secrets as to who they are wanting, although the Lester >>>>>>>>> deal hasn’t happened yet. But if they pick him up that will anchor >>>>>>>>> their starting rotation quite a bit too. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As for TN, I still say thats a team to be watching out for. The SEC >>>>>>>>> east isn’t a super strong devision, it can be taken and not have to >>>>>>>>> get around a team like Alabama.Depends on recruiting but they’ve >>>>>>>>> already improved over last year’s team despite injuries etc. They >>>>>>>>> don’t give up, unlike the Chicago Bears who seeo just curl up in a >>>>>>>>> ball. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Illini basketball is looking pretty interesting this year too and >>>>>>>>> they’ve already landed a major recruit to start next year. Lots of >>>>>>>>> things on the sports plate, something that is needed since Da Bears >>>>>>>>> are so bad this year. >>>>>>>>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 8:38 AM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, we managed to get into a bowl game this year. Butch just got a >>>>>>>>>> pay raise and a contract extension. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas McMahan >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:59 AM >>>>>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yep, keep an eye on those Vols, they are going to be heard in the >>>>>>>>>> next year tr two seriously the way things are going. They’ve had a >>>>>>>>>> lot of injuries, but still manage to keep on going to some degree. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes the style of offense they play actually fits Dobs better than >>>>>>>>>> the guy they had start the year, Dobs himself becomes a weapon >>>>>>>>>> because he can take more punishment running the ball himself. Even >>>>>>>>>> in the Bama game they did’t give up even though Bama got a two score >>>>>>>>>> lead within the first couple of minutes of the game. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes this whole internet thing is a great invention, have listened to >>>>>>>>>> more Tennessee games this year than Illinois games, although I did >>>>>>>>>> hear the Illini Gofers game and like everybody else was surprised >>>>>>>>>> they actually pulled that one off. I bet the Gofers were surprised >>>>>>>>>> the most coming in with only 1 Big 10 loss at the time. Think they >>>>>>>>>> looked over the Illini and got burned on that one. Well it serves >>>>>>>>>> them right they derailed the Illini a number of times in the past. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 18, 2014, at 6:58 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I can’t comment on NFL, but I am proud of what I have seen out of >>>>>>>>>>> the Vols this year. It hasn’t been a stellar season, but the games >>>>>>>>>>> we have played haven’t been blow outs either. In fact I heard >>>>>>>>>>> yesterday I guess it was one more win for the Vols and we will be >>>>>>>>>>> going to a bowl game. I wish they had of put Josh Dobbs in earlier >>>>>>>>>>> in the season rather than redshirting him as it may have caused >>>>>>>>>>> more upsets especially with Muschimp and those Gators. Sorry for >>>>>>>>>>> the hi-jack, but I am known for hijacking post. Right? *LOL* >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:audio-pals-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Thomas >>>>>>>>>>> McMahan >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 5:39 PM >>>>>>>>>>> To: audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Bears have done a lot of that loosing this year especially to >>>>>>>>>>> teams that logically would be worse than them. Up until yesterday >>>>>>>>>>> even playing at home wasn’t helping them out. But the NFL this >>>>>>>>>>> year is completely goofy anyway. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 10:25 AM, BethAnn LaPresta (Redacted sender >>>>>>>>>>>> "bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bela28_02@xxxxxxxxx>" for DMARC) >>>>>>>>>>>> <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone. Nothing exciting on this end, just working and >>>>>>>>>>>> trying to do some projects around the house for the >>>>>>>>>>>> appraisal...trying to refinance and get some cash out of the house >>>>>>>>>>>> to pay for it all. LOL >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> My oldest turned 29 on Friday and apparently ate the entire jello >>>>>>>>>>>> cake yesterday (with the exception of 3 pieces I made him share >>>>>>>>>>>> with his friends/brother). The Seattle Seahawks lost, so I left >>>>>>>>>>>> right after that to avoid the inevitable "crabby" that would be >>>>>>>>>>>> expressed about the loss. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving! >>>>>>>>>>>> BethAnn >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> From: Heather H <copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:copperlee73@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>" >>>>>>>>>>>> <audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audio-pals@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 10:35 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [audio-pals] Re: Ghost Town >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, Josh and Tom. Everything is okay here in snowy Ohio. The >>>>>>>>>>>> snow is coming down here and I am looking forward to going out and >>>>>>>>>>>> playing in it with Selah. well, she will play...I wouldn't do >>>>>>>>>>>> anything so childish as that...lol >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope everyone who celebraates it, has a wonderful and blessed >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanksgiving. No turkey here of course...can't trust it. chicken >>>>>>>>>>>> and dumplings here for us. The store killed chicken little for >>>>>>>>>>>> this dish not me!!!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hugs to you Bethie!!!!! Happy birthday to my oldest nephew who >>>>>>>>>>>> just turned 29. OMG, I'm old. Who let them grow up? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Thomas McMahan >>>>>>>>>>>> <shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx <mailto:shadowmonstrosity@xxxxxxx>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Nope you’re still in the list and so should everybody else bee, >>>>>>>>>>>> it’s just been dead quiet lately. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Heather probably has the bus running again and she and George and >>>>>>>>>>>> Pete and who knows who else are probably driving around and >>>>>>>>>>>> stopping at Wal-marts in Canada again trying to get Liz’s >>>>>>>>>>>> attention. But I’m not sure they are going to get >>>>>>>>>>>> Liz’s attention *lol*. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Got an e-mail from Suzi off list so know she’s alive too. BethAnn >>>>>>>>>>>> might be doing another batch of sessions of closet rap for her >>>>>>>>>>>> next album release or something, or she’s waiting to sell you a >>>>>>>>>>>> house Josh. It might be “the perfect place.” Or maybe not >>>>>>>>>>>> depends on who’s standard of perfection is being used perhaps. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Don’t know about Don. Danny though is alive and well, eating lots >>>>>>>>>>>> and lots of cream corn, well probably every meal he eats is cream >>>>>>>>>>>> corn, because he doesn’t like it so he has been placed into the >>>>>>>>>>>> cream corn factor. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Patti continues to improve bit by bit, gets a little more >>>>>>>>>>>> talkative over time at times. She has a couple of appointments >>>>>>>>>>>> coming in December, one is physical, the other is the Neurologist. >>>>>>>>>>>> But I’m thinking generally things will be going in the right >>>>>>>>>>>> direction for her as afar as they are concerned. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 16, 2014, at 10:20 PM, Josh <lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:lawdog911@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>>>>>>> How is everyone doing? I have not seen any post from the list >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a few weeks now. I am wondering if I have not gotten myself >>>>>>>>>>>>> booted somehow unintentionally. I guess the last I seen any post >>>>>>>>>>>>> was Tom and I interacting about the family issues. The issues are >>>>>>>>>>>>> not a hundred percent, but I do feel that since Amanda stood up >>>>>>>>>>>>> and stood her ground we have gotten more respect. Now, it seems >>>>>>>>>>>>> as though we are actualy people and not servants. However, that >>>>>>>>>>>>> could change at any moment. Well, we have our prequalification >>>>>>>>>>>>> letter and have found a few houses that we are interested in. We >>>>>>>>>>>>> have to call tomorrow and get a real estate agent. Getting the >>>>>>>>>>>>> prequal was a bit ofa hassle though. Today Amanda and I went and >>>>>>>>>>>>> bought little man some birthday presents and got his location >>>>>>>>>>>>> reserved. Sometime this week we have to get the invitations >>>>>>>>>>>>> filled-out. Amanda and I are in the home stretch of the semester >>>>>>>>>>>>> and everything seems to be going alright. I am in one class where >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not know if I passed or failed until the final grade comes >>>>>>>>>>>>> out since 50% of the points aren’t going to be figured until the >>>>>>>>>>>>> end of the semester. Amanda as far as I know is doing fine in her >>>>>>>>>>>>> classes, she has some projects that she is working on, but I >>>>>>>>>>>>> belive they are going fine. So, as always we have a ton of things >>>>>>>>>>>>> going on, but little time *LOL*. Have a good one and I hope to be >>>>>>>>>>>>> able to read some list traffic here in a few days. Take care and >>>>>>>>>>>>> chat later. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >