[argyllcms] Re: Printer profile creation: Definitive print procedure on Mac

  • From: Todd Sailor <mfdisme@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:35:46 -0600

Here is my colprof dialog while creating my profile. Does anyone see any 
glaring issues/problems? Thanks much.


todds-mac-pro:bin Todd$ ./colprof -v -qh -i D50 -o 1931_2 -S AdobeRGB1998.icc 
-cmt -dpp -D"837 Kirkland 8x10 02-13-2014" -C"Copyright Todd Sailor 2014" a1
No total ink limit being used
No black ink limit being used
No of test patches = 675
Estimating white point
Approximate White point XYZ = 0.815508 0.849284 0.726680, Lab = 93.852246 
-0.650694 -2.323923
Creating optimised per channel curves
Initial White Point XYZ 0.815508 0.849284 0.726680, Lab 93.852246 -0.650694 
-2.323923
About to optimise temporary matrix
 100%
About to optimise a common input curve and matrix
 100%
About to optimise input curves and matrix
 100%
About to optimise output curves and matrix
 100%
About to optimise input curves and matrix again
 100%
About to optimise input, matrix and output together
 100%
About to adjust a and b output curves for white point
About to create grid position input curves
Create final clut from scattered data
*******************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
Doing White point fine tune:
Before fine tune, rel WP = XYZ 0.964267 0.999896 0.825127, Lab 99.995972 
0.028964 -0.025321
After fine tune, rel WP = XYZ 0.964200 1.000000 0.824900, Lab 100.000000 
0.000000 0.000000
                 abs WP = XYZ 0.815567 0.849195 0.726881, Lab 93.848432 
-0.622964 -2.348157
Creating fast inverse input lookups
White point XYZ = 0.815567 0.849195 0.726881, Lab = 93.848432 -0.622964 
-2.348157
Find black point
Black point XYZ = 0.003196 0.003174 0.003629, Lab = 2.866715 0.550729 -1.909031
Done A to B table creation
Setting up B to A table lookup
Creating Gamut Mapping
 Finding Source Colorspace Perceptual Gamut
 Finding Source Colorspace Saturation Gamut
 Finding Destination Gamut
 Creating Gamut match
 Gamut Mapping Specification:
  Description = ' p - Perceptual (Preferred) (Default) [ICC Perceptual]'
  Closest ICC intent = 'Perceptual'
  Using Color Apperance Space
  Using Mapping with parameters:
  Grey axis alignment   factor 1.000000
  Grey axis white compression factor 1.000000
  Grey axis white expansion   factor 1.000000
  Grey axis black compression factor 1.000000
  Grey axis black expansion   factor 1.000000
  Grey axis knee        factor 1.000000
  Black point algorithm: Neutral axis no-adapt extend and bend
  Gamut compression factor 1.000000
  Gamut expansion   factor 0.000000
  Gamut compression knee factor 0.800000
  Gamut expansion   knee factor 0.000000
  Gamut Perceptual mapping weighting factor 1.000000
  Gamut Saturation mapping weighting factor 0.000000
  Saturation enhancement factor 0.000000
Gamut map resolution: 33
Src colorspace white/black are 100.000000 -2.471343 -1.494423, 3.462465 
-0.416217 -0.251732
Src gamut white/black are      100.000000 -2.471343 -1.494423, 3.462465 
-0.416217 -0.251732
Dst colorspace white/black are 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Target (blended) dst wp/bp   = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Adapted & extended tgt wp/bp = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Rotate matrix src wp/bp      = 99.999999 -2.471343 -1.494423, 6.447042 
-0.479754 -0.290151
Rotate matrix dst wp/bp      = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Bend target                                              bp = 6.560100 
-0.376444 -0.101465
Rotated source grey axis wp/bp 100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, 3.579129 0.860590 
-3.629965
Rotated gamut grey axis wp/bp  100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, 3.579129 0.860590 
-3.629965
Destination axis target wp/bp  99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Mapped source grey axis wp/bp  100.058983 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.421301 0.860590 
-3.629965
Vertex count: mult. = 4.000000, src 1672, img 1672 dst 1393, target 6509
Average number of direction guide neigbours = 437.271956, min = 3
Optimizing source to destination mapping...
..No og 3241 max 21.126350 avg 2.194501, No ig 3010 max 11.191186 avg 1.640994
No og 2800 max 1.690070 avg 0.243427, No ig 3451 max 7.997839 avg 0.537435
No og 2383 max 0.338014 avg 0.061087, No ig 3868 max 5.906902 avg 0.133211
No og 2799 max 0.067603 avg 0.009318, No ig 3452 max 3.820848 avg 0.031177
No og 3555 max 5.536921 avg 0.331647, No ig 2696 max 3.986447 avg 0.442069, avg 
rext -0.002049
No og  555 max 2.972755 avg 0.209722, No ig 5696 max 4.631420 avg 0.518829, avg 
rext -0.002049
No og  367 max 2.451426 avg 0.184390, No ig 5884 max 4.874800 avg 0.559590, avg 
rext -0.002049
No og  319 max 2.439459 avg 0.180157, No ig 5932 max 5.030217 avg 0.587148, avg 
rext -0.002049

Creating rspl..
Fine tuning white and black point mapping
White is 98.972143 -0.895391 1.818836, should be 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137
Black is 6.455508 0.720456 -3.310054, should be 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
After fine tuning:
White is 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, should be 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137
Black is 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422, should be 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
 Gamut Mapping Specification:
  Description = ' s - Enhanced Saturation [ICC Saturation]'
  Closest ICC intent = 'Saturation'
  Using Color Apperance Space
  Using Mapping with parameters:
  Grey axis alignment   factor 1.000000
  Grey axis white compression factor 1.000000
  Grey axis white expansion   factor 1.000000
  Grey axis black compression factor 1.000000
  Grey axis black expansion   factor 1.000000
  Grey axis knee        factor 1.000000
  Black point algorithm: Neutral axis no-adapt extend and bend
  Gamut compression factor 1.000000
  Gamut expansion   factor 1.000000
  Gamut compression knee factor 1.000000
  Gamut expansion   knee factor 0.500000
  Gamut Perceptual mapping weighting factor 0.000000
  Gamut Saturation mapping weighting factor 1.000000
  Saturation enhancement factor 0.900000
Gamut map resolution: 33
Src colorspace white/black are 100.000000 -2.471343 -1.494423, 3.462465 
-0.416217 -0.251732
Src gamut white/black are      100.000000 -2.471343 -1.494423, 3.462465 
-0.416217 -0.251732
Dst colorspace white/black are 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Target (blended) dst wp/bp   = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Adapted & extended tgt wp/bp = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Rotate matrix src wp/bp      = 99.999999 -2.471343 -1.494423, 6.447042 
-0.479754 -0.290151
Rotate matrix dst wp/bp      = 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Bend target                                              bp = 6.560100 
-0.376444 -0.101465
Rotated source grey axis wp/bp 100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, 3.579129 0.860590 
-3.629965
Rotated gamut grey axis wp/bp  100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, 3.579129 0.860590 
-3.629965
Destination axis target wp/bp  99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.560100 0.807335 
-3.474422
Mapped source grey axis wp/bp  100.058983 -0.861983 1.401137, 6.421301 0.860590 
-3.629965
Vertex count: mult. = 4.000000, src 1672, img 1672 dst 1393, target 6509
Average number of direction guide neigbours = 150.226713, min = 1
Optimizing source to destination mapping...
..No og 3902 max 8.708941 avg 0.798906, No ig 2432 max 5.186756 avg 0.577604
No og 2431 max 0.986341 avg 0.112373, No ig 3903 max 1.741788 avg 0.158914
No og 2305 max 0.278524 avg 0.027846, No ig 4029 max 0.348358 avg 0.036207
No og 2431 max 0.039454 avg 0.004349, No ig 3903 max 0.069672 avg 0.006297
No og 3212 max 3.789037 avg 0.173558, No ig 3122 max 4.093797 avg 0.195352, avg 
rext -0.008276
No og 1793 max 2.174002 avg 0.124617, No ig 4541 max 4.246673 avg 0.200998, avg 
rext -0.008276
No og  903 max 1.346490 avg 0.097519, No ig 5431 max 4.650075 avg 0.244852, avg 
rext -0.008276
No og  644 max 1.085923 avg 0.092585, No ig 5690 max 4.731610 avg 0.270556, avg 
rext -0.008276

Creating rspl..
Warning: Gamut mapping is non-monotonic - may not be very smooth !
Fine tuning white and black point mapping
White is 98.974889 -0.682368 1.440333, should be 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137
Black is 6.396136 0.870813 -3.454226, should be 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
After fine tuning:
White is 100.000000 -0.861983 1.401137, should be 99.999999 -0.861983 1.401137
Black is 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422, should be 6.560100 0.807335 -3.474422
Creating B to A tables
Rev cache RAM = 6764 Mbytes
There is 1 rev cache instance with 6764 Mbytes limit
There are 2 rev cache instances with 3382 Mbytes limit
100%
Done B to A tables
Creating gamut boundary table
100%
Done gamut boundary table
There is 1 rev cache instance with 6764 Mbytes limit
Profile check complete, peak err = 3.962292, avg err = 0.447221, RMS = 0.567234


On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Alan Goldhammer <agoldhammer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Just download the utility, create your test charts in ArgyllCMS the usual
> way with whatever flags you use.  Launch the ACPU utility and open up the
> target TIFF files you created and print.  The only thing you have to do is
> make sure that you select the correct paper setting for your printer (type
> and the size you specified in printtarg).  The ACPU is not color managed.
> Directions on the Adobe site that Ivan posted are pretty clear.
> 
> Alan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Roger Breton
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 1:17 PM
> To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Printer profile creation: Definitive print
> procedure on Mac
> 
> So what's the workflow like, using Adobe Color Utility?
> I'll bet there's more information on Adobe's web site?
> 
> Thank's / Roger
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Alan Goldhammer
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 11:12 AM
> To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Printer profile creation: Definitive print
> procedure on Mac
> 
> The only way to "guarantee" that you are printing with no color management
> is to use the Adobe Color Print Utility as Ivan already noted.  I'm on
> Windows but I've read on numerous forums the problems that Mac users
> encounter when trying to print targets.  The only versions of Photoshop that
> allow you to do this are CS4 and earlier; you cannot use Photoshop CC to do
> this.  
> 
> Alan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Todd Sailor
> Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 10:32 AM
> To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [argyllcms] Printer profile creation: Definitive print procedure on
> Mac
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I am running Mavericks 10.9.1 and I think I am having difficulty producing a
> completely un-color managed printed test chart. I am using Photoshop CC and
> have also tried to print from Mavericks' Preview app, but after scanning
> both charts, I get significant out of gamut indications in PS. Also,
> resulted prints appear very dull and not accurate to my calibrated (via
> DisplayCal) monitor's rendition of the photo.
> 
> In the Preview app under Color Matching, I am choosing EPSON Color Controls;
> then under Print Settings, I am choosing the paper I'd like to use; and
> finally under Color Options, I am choosing Off (No Color Management). I
> print out the chart and let it dry, then scan it in with a ColorMunki. 
> 
> In Photoshop, I really don't know what to do. Should PS manage color? And if
> so, what settings should be set? Or, should the printer manage color, and if
> so, what settings should be set to create a non-color managed test chart
> print?
> 
> I am pretty sure the print is the issue, but I am also going to calibrate my
> monitor again as well.
> 
> Thanks in advance for the help!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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