I'm not sure if there is a default black point for argyllcms. The x-rite profile is quite decent actually as far as I can tell, it's just not nearly as flexible. At 6500k(my lcd's native now is ~5k) 100cd/m2 white point, I see black level at 2, have a contrast ratio of ~780:1. I'm not sure what the BP is for x-rite because it doesn't say. Using ArgyllCMS and BP adjusted to 0.3/cdm2, I see BL from 1, but with a reduced contrast ratio of ~470:1. On a similar note, I was originally planning to calibrate my i1 display 2 off the colormunki and use the i1d2 to get better shadow details because everyone is saying that spectro doesn't perform as well as a colorimeter in dark patches, I understand it's because of the increased noise. But so far I'm not seeing any real world differences when I compared ColorMunki with i1D2+CCMX in the shadow. I checked out the B&W gradient & examined the dark patches in the shadow and didn't notice any conclusive differences between the 2. What exactly should I be looking for? I did however see higher dE in RGB gray balance when I did cross profile verification using both to measure against each other, not sure they mean anything, but here you go. All settings used are the same & built using high quality setting, with only difference in hardware. For CM I turned on Adaptive Hires & BP Drift Compensation. Using ColorMunki for verification: 1) CM profile: http://tinyurl.com/4yqu4km 2) i1D2 profile: http://tinyurl.com/3kgq5od Using i1D2+CCMX for verification: 1) CM profile: http://tinyurl.com/3jncfnc 2) i1D2 profile: http://tinyurl.com/3fkhqz8 On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 7:50 AM, tony22p <tony22p@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > But Xun, to me this raises a question. If you had to raise the black > point did you then wind up being slightly out of calibration? In other > words, was the black point setting originally where the calibration software > said it needed to be?**** > > ** ** > > *From:* argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto: > argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *xun wang > *Sent:* Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:40 AM > *To:* argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > *Subject:* [argyllcms] Re: Crushed shadow details**** > > ** ** > > Never mind I see what I did wrong. All I had to do is to raise the black > point a bit to get all the shadow details.**** > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:22 PM, xun wang <xun911@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:**** > > Thanks that works!**** > > ** ** > > I did some some further testing and comparison, and noticed that with > ArgyllCMS I still get less shadow details than the profile created using > X-rite's OEM software(ICC v2). Using photoshop's curve tool, the > lowest discernible shadow details using x-rite profile is 2. With ArgyllCMS > profile it's 4. I don't see any noticeable color casts in the shadows by > either profile.**** > > I also get less gamut volume with the ArgyllCMS: 1,114,180 vs 1,087.920*** > * > > ** ** > > Below is the DispcalGUI screenshot for the settings I used, please let me > know if there're anything I haven't optimized. Because I would really love > to use ArgyllCMS for my main calibration tool for its powerful features and > flexibilty. But for now the x-rite OEM software seems to give superior > result yet taking a fraction of the time.**** > > ** ** > > DispcalGUI setting screen shot: http://tinyurl.com/3vw7o9y**** > > ** ** > > I also ran "Very Profile", I'm not entirely sure but it also seems to agree > that the x-rite profile is oeverall slightly more accurate?**** > > x-rite profile verification: http://tinyurl.com/44eptzd**** > > argyllcms profile verification: http://tinyurl.com/4yqu4km**** > > ** ** > > Any help and inputs are greatly appreciated!**** > > ** ** > > Xun**** > > ** ** > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Florian Höch <lists+argyllcms@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote:**** > > Am 09.09.2011 20:28, schrieb xun wang:**** > > ** ** > > Is there anyway I could create a "single gamma + matrix" file for > Colormunki using the existing saved calculation data without running > through the "Calibreate & profile" process again? it's painfully slow > when I use "adaptive hires" + Black Drift Compensation for the Colormunki. > **** > > ** ** > > Yes, you can use the existing ColorMunki data to create a new profile from > it. (using the commandline tools, give the existing .ti3 as last argument to > colprof. Or if you use dispcalGUI, set the desired profile type, then in the > "Options" menu -> "Create profile from measurement data...", then select the > .ti3 file) > > -- > Florian Höch > > **** > > ** ** > > ** ** >