But Xun, to me this raises a question. If you had to raise the black point did you then wind up being slightly out of calibration? In other words, was the black point setting originally where the calibration software said it needed to be? From: argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:argyllcms-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of xun wang Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 12:40 AM To: argyllcms@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [argyllcms] Re: Crushed shadow details Never mind I see what I did wrong. All I had to do is to raise the black point a bit to get all the shadow details. On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 10:22 PM, xun wang <xun911@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Thanks that works! I did some some further testing and comparison, and noticed that with ArgyllCMS I still get less shadow details than the profile created using X-rite's OEM software(ICC v2). Using photoshop's curve tool, the lowest discernible shadow details using x-rite profile is 2. With ArgyllCMS profile it's 4. I don't see any noticeable color casts in the shadows by either profile. I also get less gamut volume with the ArgyllCMS: 1,114,180 vs 1,087.920 Below is the DispcalGUI screenshot for the settings I used, please let me know if there're anything I haven't optimized. Because I would really love to use ArgyllCMS for my main calibration tool for its powerful features and flexibilty. But for now the x-rite OEM software seems to give superior result yet taking a fraction of the time. DispcalGUI setting screen shot: http://tinyurl.com/3vw7o9y I also ran "Very Profile", I'm not entirely sure but it also seems to agree that the x-rite profile is oeverall slightly more accurate? x-rite profile verification: http://tinyurl.com/44eptzd argyllcms profile verification: http://tinyurl.com/4yqu4km Any help and inputs are greatly appreciated! Xun On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Florian Höch <lists+argyllcms@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:lists%2Bargyllcms@xxxxxxxxx> > wrote: Am 09.09.2011 20:28, schrieb xun wang: Is there anyway I could create a "single gamma + matrix" file for Colormunki using the existing saved calculation data without running through the "Calibreate & profile" process again? it's painfully slow when I use "adaptive hires" + Black Drift Compensation for the Colormunki. Yes, you can use the existing ColorMunki data to create a new profile from it. (using the commandline tools, give the existing .ti3 as last argument to colprof. Or if you use dispcalGUI, set the desired profile type, then in the "Options" menu -> "Create profile from measurement data...", then select the .ti3 file) -- Florian Höch