This message was posted by JuneForever on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/1021.html#000004 I was using the WACF for visors and hooping the same as I hooped for regular hats (the video on the main page of this site is a must!). Need to make sure you are hooped tight! I just recently purchased the Hoop Tech cap frame and did an order of hats and visors on them and that worked well (and saved the blisters on my hands from hooping the WACF so tight ;) ) =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================