Roland, I use the self stick gauze from the drug store. It comes in strips already. It sticks to itself and seems to be just tacky enough to hold those problem items. I don't use it on my 15mm and 12mm but I do keep it on my rectangle and large wooden hoops. Evelyn Express It With Thread ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roland R. Irish III" <signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: [amayausers] Re: third hand > Does anyone else take adhesive backing, cut it into strips, and line the > mating pieces of the plastic hoops? I was shown that in training, and once I > noticed garments popping off the hoops I did it to all of them-including the > wooden oversize ones. Had nylon jackets that just wouldn't stay in the hoops > no matter how tight... > with the backing stuck there seems to help, although for padded 'farm coats' > (Sanmar work jackets) even that isn't enough-the jackets are way too thick. > So I got those heavy duty 2" 'wedge' steel paper holders and work them > around the hoop. Just have to do a trace to make sure the 'handles' aren't > hit by the head or neck and pop off. > Roland > >