This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/11/49.html#000006 I disagree with the 'throwaway' comment...because MOST embroidery on the market today IS throwaway (or GIVEAWAY) like the hats and even keyfobs handed out by the gazillions at tradeshows and fairs. For the 2 person shop-it is an EXCELLENT source of income AND will keep your customers coming back. Why? because if you send your customer to someone else to get their pens and keychains, that new 'salesperson' is ALSO going to whip out THEIR EMBROIDERY SUPPLY CATALOG...guess what-we aren't the only ones selling embroider out here! And, YES, embroider IS just a phone call to a mass production warehouse...many, many of them! I have MANY catalogs in here with embroidered items that are so low priced you will regret trying to sell embroidery on your own...seriously-I can supply ANYONE with 6,000 stitch embroidered ballcaps for $1.99 RETAIL...you can't even BUY the blank hat for that price in small quantity. But I don't show these catalogs to my customers...but if I had a huge order for them, I'd order from the catalog-because no way do I have time to do 500 or 1000 hats at a time! I've had the mamay (first the Big Red and now an XT) for over 5 years...and quite honestly-I sell more 'ad specialty' products per month than I do embroidery...up here there isn't much market for it. Another shop nearby specializes in it with a multi head machine...and now HE is branching into screenprinting and small vinyl sign & banner making-cutting into my territory. Last week alone I ordered a small pen order ($200 retail) and 50 political signs ($300) and my NET profit is 40%. Whoever said the average profit is only 20$ is way off...that is only on a few companies and usually high quantity orders. Takes the same amount of time to sell 100 keychains as it does 10,000...so the markup on higher quantities is lower. BUT if you get a catalog from a company that ONLY gives you 20%...think twice about selling for them...because there are over 10,000 suppliers listed in UPIC alone! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================