[amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
- From: "pat" <post@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:08:33 -0400
Rod or Sharon:
Hate to get off the subject but I need help!! Doing upgrades to both Amaya
and DesignShop Pro to 2005. First the machines would not communicate, now I
can't get the OS to recognize the 2 machines. The Machine Configuration
Wizard must be really stumped. Any suggestions?
Embroiderysew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 10:03 PM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> To answer for Herb.....yes, this procedure can be done by anyone as long
as
> the instructions are followed carefully on Hook Timing procedures.
> Electronics, other than operating the computer, really plays no part in
> setting the hook timing, it is almost all mechanical in nature.
>
> Rod
>
>
> Embroidery Cottage
> Rod & Sharon Springer
> Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
> Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
>
> Boise, ID 83713
> 208-938-3038
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 5:18 PM
> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>
>
> > Hi Herb,
> >
> > Can an inexperienced person who has electronic experience do the hook
> > timing?
> >
> > Terri
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HK Acree
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:48 PM
> > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >
> > Gonna throw my thoughts in here as I am in the process of retiming the
> > hook.
> >
> > Was having some thread break issues that I could not trace to the usual.
> > (Rollers, needles, mat thickness, bobbins). Found my hook timing
retarded
> > .7
> >
> > of a degree. Was having fraying type thread issues. We shall see what
> > happens. My plastic covers have small marks in them as well, but have
had
> > for some time. I don't think they are an issue.
> >
> > Herb
> > Royal Embroidery
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:12 PM
> > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >
> >
> >> No needle breaks. Thread frays down by the needle. Have noticed a few
> >> times of not getting a good trim, thread expands, sews another area,
then
> >> frays. Checked and double checked that needles are in correctly. As
far
> >> as
> >> we can tell the needles are not rotated too far. Have altered numerous
> >> times to see if any improvement. Looked at the bobbin and bobbin area,
> >> and
> >> as far as we can tell everything is ok. Never inserted anything other
> >> than
> >> a business card in the bobbin for cleaning. I'm sure that most of this
> >> is
> >> operator error but it is very frustrating as I can't seem to get any
> >> "clean,
> >> continuous" results.
> >>
> >> Terri
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:57 PM
> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >>
> >> The thread frays that you are having, does the thread fray around the
> >> thread
> >> feed roller cover or does it fray down by the needle area?
> >> Have you broken many needles in the time frame you've had the machine?
> >> Ed
> >>
> >> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> >> E.M. Broidery
> >> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> >> New Orleans, La. 70056
> >> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri
Hoover
> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:35 PM
> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >>
> >>
> >> Ed,
> >>
> >> Never had metallic thread on the machine. I've had my machine since
late
> >> May 2004 and have not done a lot of sewing. In fact just did the 4 mil
> >> maintenance. (I've changed rollers as needed before this.) The
material
> >> thickness is set anywhere from 4 to 12 depending on garments. (I've
only
> >> sewn 3 caps.) It seems as of late that have been having a lot of
fraying
> >> thread breaks. To the point that I'm afraid to sew on anything that
> >> "real".
> >> I'm thinking that the thread may be getting caught on this groove.
> >> Typically on these fraying thread breaks, the thread is NOT around the
> >> roller or bundled up under the cover. I've been avoid all 7 needles
that
> >> have the cut in the cover.
> >> The cut is below the little dip/groove in the cover.
> >>
> >> Terri
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:23 PM
> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >>
> >> Are you using metallic thread??? We've been running for three years
and
> >> haven't seen grooves in the black plastic cover yet. Could you have
> >> gotten
> >> a bad batch? What is the average Material Thickness setting that you
> >> run.
> >> Do you ever change this setting as you sew different garments?
> >> If the groove in the cover isn't causing damage to the thread, I
> >> don't see
> >> were it would be a problem. The grooves in the thread feed roller are
an
> >> issue because you need consistent pressure from the red roller above.
> >> The
> >> black cover is just that, a cover. The cover does have a "dovetail"
> >> thread
> >> guide notch, but that is up and above the thread feed roller window.
Is
> >> that the groove you're talking about?
> >> Ed
> >>
> >> Ed & Maralien Orantes
> >> E.M. Broidery
> >> 900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
> >> New Orleans, La. 70056
> >> 504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri
Hoover
> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:52 PM
> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >>
> >>
> >> Along this same line, has anyone had any problems with black cover of
the
> >> roller getting a cut in it. Some of mine have. Granted my experience
at
> >> correctly embroidering is small, but have not had any bird nests or
other
> >> thing that have caused problems to the actual rollers. My rollers in
> >> fact
> >> look really good compared to the picture in the Amaya book. The have
> >> only
> >> had 1 or 2 nicks. So what would cause the "cut" in the black cover. I
> >> can
> >> see it and drag a nail across it.
> >>
> >> Terri
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Body Cover
> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:45 PM
> >> To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >>
> >> The exasperation is real
> >> I haven't experienced it to your level though
> >> I try to hold the tip way up and hook the lip of the back
> >> in first, try and hold it as level (left to right) as possible
> >> it does want to touch the red roller also. I have also
> >> had good luck with holding it on both sides, better leverage
> >> and my fingers are too big to get too close.
> >> let it ride in on the top of the replaced feed roller
> >> then lift it slightly. also you may try to get a stool and a flashlight
> >> and look at it from above the red roller and guide it in that
> >> way, I do know unless it's right it won't snap down right
> >> I wish I had a good trick to share with you.
> >>
> >>
> >> as far as the upper adjustment you'll be happy to know
> >> that all you can do is raise and lower the fabric thickness
> >> if it is acting erratic I'll bet you have grooves and gunk on the
rollers
> >> and sad to say I'll bet a lot of them are bad, which means lots
> >> of practice changing out rollers.
> >> One tip I can give that we learned the hard way.
> >> to inspect the roller, you need to actually pull it out.
> >> We kept having problems on one needle and when I looked
> >> I never saw a groove but after 2 or 3 looks I finally pulled it out
> >> and found a nasty gash on the backside.
> >> I guess I got unlucky and looked at the good spot three times in a row!
> >> the point is, now if I even think of thread feed problems I swap
rollers
> >> and see if the problem disappears. then I throw the old ones in a box
> >> as backups in case I need another and have no new ones left.
> >> I can clean an old one with alcohol or eraser as described in this list
> >> and make due as long as there no wear grooves or cuts.
> >> and don't think it has to birdnest or go really wrong to make a cut or
> >> groove,
> >> it is a normal wear and tear thing, it is not an "IF" it is a "WHEN"
> >> so buy extras next time you order supplies and be ready
> >>
> >> Ron Vinyard
> >> Body Cover / Magic Stitches
> >> 1-888-435-0176
> >>
> >> 420 SW H street
> >> Grants Pass, OR 97526
> >>
> >> info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> www.bodycoverdesign.com
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <embroideryexpress@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:17 AM
> >> Subject: [amayausers] Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
> >>
> >>
> >>>I can now get the thread feed rollers in and out easily enough.
> >>> My frustration is replacing the black cover...I have spent 45 minutes
> >>> plus
> >> several times and then I walk away and leave that
> >>> needle OUT OF THE LOOP for several days...anyone have any tips for
> >> replacing that easily. I wrestled it last night...again this
> >>> morning and my nerves are shot I plan to stop in and see the salesman
> >>> at
> >> the NNEP conference and have him demonstrate this for
> >>> me.....
> >>>
> >>> I have a helper that says I need to tighten the upper tension...I
> >>> explain
> >> that I can't (not too easily as she is Vietnamese and
> >>> our communications are VERY LIMITED....) Does there come a time that
> >>> some
> >> adjustment is necessary.
> >>>
> >>> I suspect there are grooves in my thread feed rollers but am reluctant
> >>> to
> >> check based on problems described above....
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have expereince with other brand machines....
> >>> easier? sewing quality the same or better?
> >>>
> >>> My two year warranty is about to expire and I need to decide what to
> >> do....also considering adding a machine....another AMAYA or 2
> >>> or 4 head ? DECISIONS...DECISIONS!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> Shannon
> >>> Embroidery Express
> >>> Olney MD
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