[amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
- From: "Lee or Terri Hoover" <lhoover2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2005 15:16:00 -0500
All of this info is enlightening to say the least. After attempting to sew
a towel with a 2 inch name today, I'm beginning to really believe it is not
the needle, roller, etc. Sometimes when sewing you can hear this k-lunk, it
will keep on sewing but the thread is bunched up/knotted in an area and
sparse following that area. Varying the needle number does not seem to make
a difference. Other times the thread actually breaks (fraying), which is
much easier and looks better.
I think I'll bet the tools out, buy a strong pair of over the counter
reading glasses and check the "timing".
Thanks to everyone for you help and support.
Terri
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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 2:46 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
How about the needle plate to needle centering? Could you have
scratches
in the hole of the needle plate? Very tricky to see sometimes. You might
have scratches on the retaining finger. That is the piece that keeps the
bobbin basket from spinning with the rotary hook. This would be hard to see
and if you disassembled to investigate, make sure you replace it in the same
spot it was in.
I'm guessing this is happening on every needle? If you do wind up
having
the rotary hook replaced by a technician, know that the hook is considered a
consumable part and except for some rare occasions, is usually not covered
by the warranty. Not trying to upset anyone, just stating the facts.
Ed
Ed & Maralien Orantes
E.M. Broidery
900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
New Orleans, La. 70056
504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 3:12 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
No needle breaks. Thread frays down by the needle. Have noticed a few
times of not getting a good trim, thread expands, sews another area, then
frays. Checked and double checked that needles are in correctly. As far as
we can tell the needles are not rotated too far. Have altered numerous
times to see if any improvement. Looked at the bobbin and bobbin area, and
as far as we can tell everything is ok. Never inserted anything other than
a business card in the bobbin for cleaning. I'm sure that most of this is
operator error but it is very frustrating as I can't seem to get any "clean,
continuous" results.
Terri
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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:57 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
The thread frays that you are having, does the thread fray around the thread
feed roller cover or does it fray down by the needle area?
Have you broken many needles in the time frame you've had the machine?
Ed
Ed & Maralien Orantes
E.M. Broidery
900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
New Orleans, La. 70056
504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:35 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
Ed,
Never had metallic thread on the machine. I've had my machine since late
May 2004 and have not done a lot of sewing. In fact just did the 4 mil
maintenance. (I've changed rollers as needed before this.) The material
thickness is set anywhere from 4 to 12 depending on garments. (I've only
sewn 3 caps.) It seems as of late that have been having a lot of fraying
thread breaks. To the point that I'm afraid to sew on anything that "real".
I'm thinking that the thread may be getting caught on this groove.
Typically on these fraying thread breaks, the thread is NOT around the
roller or bundled up under the cover. I've been avoid all 7 needles that
have the cut in the cover.
The cut is below the little dip/groove in the cover.
Terri
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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of E. Orantes
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 1:23 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
Are you using metallic thread??? We've been running for three years and
haven't seen grooves in the black plastic cover yet. Could you have gotten
a bad batch? What is the average Material Thickness setting that you run.
Do you ever change this setting as you sew different garments?
If the groove in the cover isn't causing damage to the thread, I
don't see
were it would be a problem. The grooves in the thread feed roller are an
issue because you need consistent pressure from the red roller above. The
black cover is just that, a cover. The cover does have a "dovetail" thread
guide notch, but that is up and above the thread feed roller window. Is
that the groove you're talking about?
Ed
Ed & Maralien Orantes
E.M. Broidery
900 Terry Parkway, Ste. 200
New Orleans, La. 70056
504-EMBROID ery (504-362-7643)
-----Original Message-----
From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Lee or Terri Hoover
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:52 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
Along this same line, has anyone had any problems with black cover of the
roller getting a cut in it. Some of mine have. Granted my experience at
correctly embroidering is small, but have not had any bird nests or other
thing that have caused problems to the actual rollers. My rollers in fact
look really good compared to the picture in the Amaya book. The have only
had 1 or 2 nicks. So what would cause the "cut" in the black cover. I can
see it and drag a nail across it.
Terri
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From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Body Cover
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 12:45 PM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
The exasperation is real
I haven't experienced it to your level though
I try to hold the tip way up and hook the lip of the back
in first, try and hold it as level (left to right) as possible
it does want to touch the red roller also. I have also
had good luck with holding it on both sides, better leverage
and my fingers are too big to get too close.
let it ride in on the top of the replaced feed roller
then lift it slightly. also you may try to get a stool and a flashlight
and look at it from above the red roller and guide it in that
way, I do know unless it's right it won't snap down right
I wish I had a good trick to share with you.
as far as the upper adjustment you'll be happy to know
that all you can do is raise and lower the fabric thickness
if it is acting erratic I'll bet you have grooves and gunk on the rollers
and sad to say I'll bet a lot of them are bad, which means lots
of practice changing out rollers.
One tip I can give that we learned the hard way.
to inspect the roller, you need to actually pull it out.
We kept having problems on one needle and when I looked
I never saw a groove but after 2 or 3 looks I finally pulled it out
and found a nasty gash on the backside.
I guess I got unlucky and looked at the good spot three times in a row!
the point is, now if I even think of thread feed problems I swap rollers
and see if the problem disappears. then I throw the old ones in a box
as backups in case I need another and have no new ones left.
I can clean an old one with alcohol or eraser as described in this list
and make due as long as there no wear grooves or cuts.
and don't think it has to birdnest or go really wrong to make a cut or
groove,
it is a normal wear and tear thing, it is not an "IF" it is a "WHEN"
so buy extras next time you order supplies and be ready
Ron Vinyard
Body Cover / Magic Stitches
1-888-435-0176
420 SW H street
Grants Pass, OR 97526
info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.bodycoverdesign.com
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From: <embroideryexpress@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2005 9:17 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Thread Feed Roller Exasperation
>I can now get the thread feed rollers in and out easily enough.
> My frustration is replacing the black cover...I have spent 45 minutes plus
several times and then I walk away and leave that
> needle OUT OF THE LOOP for several days...anyone have any tips for
replacing that easily. I wrestled it last night...again this
> morning and my nerves are shot I plan to stop in and see the salesman at
the NNEP conference and have him demonstrate this for
> me.....
>
> I have a helper that says I need to tighten the upper tension...I explain
that I can't (not too easily as she is Vietnamese and
> our communications are VERY LIMITED....) Does there come a time that some
adjustment is necessary.
>
> I suspect there are grooves in my thread feed rollers but am reluctant to
check based on problems described above....
>
> Anyone have expereince with other brand machines....
> easier? sewing quality the same or better?
>
> My two year warranty is about to expire and I need to decide what to
do....also considering adding a machine....another AMAYA or 2
> or 4 head ? DECISIONS...DECISIONS!!!!!
>
> Shannon
> Embroidery Express
> Olney MD
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