This message was posted by Game Day Designs on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1342.html#000003 I use my 9cm or 12cm hoop and float 2 pieces of scrap cap backing and no topping. I sew tons of mesh caps and have never used topping. Most of the ones I do are fitted so there is no hole in the back to worry about arcing. I hoop cap backs on the corner of my desk. That's the easiest way I have found so that the bill can hang down. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================