This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/4/632.html#000003 Funny how a 'bar' can have a 'resellers' permit...a liquor license isn't the same thing. BUT this has happened with other suppliers before, and a fast boycott of teeshirt suppliers that were selling direct (or even offering their OWN in-house decorating) shut them down fast. What can you do? We handle it easy...people are always bringing in 'brand name' shirts and stuff they bought at Big Lots, Ocean State Job lots, Walmart...and we explain that for 'customer supplied goods' we get $1.50 per thousand stitches, a setup/digitizing fee, AND $5 PER ITEM for hooping charge (covers backing, trimming, etc.) AND we don't guarantee a perfect job on them-had a disastrous run of lightweight 100% poly shirts that puckered so bad...you have to explain to the bar owner...nice that you bought the hats-now what are you going to do with them? Want some magic markers? I have catalogs from thousands of ad speciaty suppliers for everything, keychains to sweatshirts...and not one of them will let YOU supply the goods. Period. So why should we if it means getting cut out of a profit? I didn't know Sanmar was doing it now-I'll have to question our sales rep. But I have run into 'independant' sales people that are running around trying to get orders for screenprinting a nd embroidery with a Sanmar book in their hand-and then expect me to do the job for pennies per item. Hasn't worked...I still get my $50 per hour whether they like it or not. And why do they come to me? Because they already bought the goods for their customer and found out no one ELSE in the area will work on customer suppied goods! Next time, they just give me the order and pay my prices. If the bar owner doesn't want to pay your price...tell him to get magic markers and do it himself! IF your competition gets the job, at least you'll know they will be tied up for awhile doing a low profit job! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================