Roland, I have had a design stop in mid sewing at a hoop limit because I didn't do a trace and had the hoop limits turned on. Maybe it was a fluke. Cheryl Rotter Team Sports Ink 5111 Grumann Dr. Ste #1B Carson City, NV 89706 775-884-3550 -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 11:28 AM To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Hello & hooping Hummmmm, the only time we've had the machine stop for hoop limit-was either when we didn't do a trace and it was over the limit, or when we did a trace, but then moved the hoop to align the design to something-and forgot to trace again. Never had it give a 'good' trace and then stop for hoop limit! >> you can keep going through this process over and >> over again >> until your happy with the results and hit start. >> on the next garment of the same design, you can't >> trace >> anymore without resetting the design but you can >> move the hoop >> with the hoop button and arrows until it hits you >> predetermined mark >> and hit start. this can also be repeated until your >> happy, just no tracing. again, hummmmmmmm, we never noticed that-we are in the habit of automatically tracing EVERY new garment-to make sure we have it hooped straight, or over the pocket centered, etc. Even when we have moved the hoop on the last garment. Still lets us trace! I'll test it when we run some more totes tomorrow and see if anything changed with the upgrade.. Roland