Hi Wendy, I will say that I can use Diskeeper with JAWS loaded here, I deliberately tried it, so it must be something about your disk or machine perhaps. Please try this though, it might help. It may be worth having a pair of eyes around when you try this. 1. Go into Diskeeper if you still have it installed. 2. Tab once to the drive list. 3. Select Drive C and then either the context or applications key, or shift F10. 4. Down arrow to Boot Time defragmentation and hit enter. 5. Check the box that says defragment at boot time, this will be disabled. 6. Tab over and check that the radio button says Manually defrag the next time I start the computer. 7. Check the box that says Defragment paging file. 8. Check the box that says Run chkdsk before defrag. It will give you a warning, and say are you sure? Say Yes. 9. Finally, tab to apply and press enter or space. Now reboot your computer. It will take quite a long time to reboot, but what it will do is to defragment the swap file, and all the files that Windows can't normally defrag because Windows locks those files. It will take quite a while to restart, but don't worry about this, it is normal. Finally, boot time defrag will be disabled again after you do this, until you go through these steps again, because you don't want it doing that every time it boots, because of the time it takes. But doing it once a month or so doesn't hurt I have discovered. Once it has restarted, just let it defrag automatically. It may now work with JAWS, but no guarantees on this. I hope it helps though. All the best Steve -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wendy Sharpe Sent: 09 August 2007 23:42 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk keeper was Re: Re: computer housekeeping When you have had to learn JAWS for work, and then spent hundreds of pounds on it for home use after retiring, another few hundred pounds for Window Eyes doesn't sound like a good idea. You get used to one screenreader, and don't really want to start learning everything all over again with different commands. I might give NVDA a go to see how it works, as it is free. Some people can't afford several big screenreaders, and I rather resent the tone of that message. Wendy Wendy -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Beasley Sent: 09 August 2007 23:11 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk keeper was Re: Re: computer housekeeping Answer is simple. Use window-eyes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:53 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk keeper was Re: Re: computer housekeeping > Wendy and all, do you have problems doing a manual analysis/defragment > with > JAWS? This is why I was put off by Diskeeper. I could do it fine with > Window-Eyes, but with JAWS I got an error message shortly after the > operation started. Does anyone know why, and if so how did you fix it? > Thanks! > Chris Hallsworth > Why not join my Blind Hobbyist mailing list! To join, send a blank message > to blind-hobbyist-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 11:56 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk > keeper > was Re: Re: computer housekeeping > > > Steve > > I am using JAWS, and it doesn't seem to work very well with Diskeeper. I > have tried doing what you say below, but it doesn't just say enabled or > disabled, it sends you into a dialog. Whatever I do, both parts of my > disk > seem to keep saying disabled several times. The checkbox for auto defrag > seems ok, but I am not sure whether auto defrag is really on or not. > > Wendy > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Steve Nutt > Sent: 09 August 2007 08:57 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk > keeper > was Re: Re: computer housekeeping > > Hi Alex, > > Go into Diskeeper from your program group, press tab once, go to the drive > which you want to check, right click it or press the application key, and > then arrow down. It should say Automatic defrag enabled. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Alexander Shannon > Sent: 08 August 2007 12:48 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: setting up automatic defragmentation in disk > keeper > was Re: Re: computer housekeeping > > Hi Steve, > > I believe I said yes to automatic defragmentation, but how can I check > this > please. > > > Alexander Shannon > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq