Hazel One of the silicon-based lubricants such as are used on bikes would be preferable to Vaseline. Although they feel as if they are coming off onto the fingers, in reality the don't. ATB David W Wood -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Hazel Darvell Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 10:00 AM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] long cain issue Carol this is a problem I have all the time, as you dig it into the pavement the harder it sticks. When you then come to folding the bloody thing up you have the devils job to do so. I have even tried putting vaseline on the joints but after a time it wears off and you need to be careful it doesn't get on your clothing. All in all it's about time this problem was resolved in some way. Also I have weak hands so this makes the problem even worse for people like myself. Sorry but this is all I can offer as help 'Take care Hazel ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq