[access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 09:54:16 +0100
Hi Peter,
I think this may be if you have a PIN turned on on your sim card, such that
you have to enter it before the phone will come on. It probably kicks in,
before iTunes can restore the phone back to your settings, though I am only
guessing.
All the best
Steve
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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Peter Holdstock
Sent: Saturday 10 April 2010 17:56
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
I've done a full reset and an upgrade on my iphone and I've never been asked
for a pin on it.
peter
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From: "Julien SEGARULL" <juliensegarull@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 5:27 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
> Hi all,
>
> I just catch up this thread and want to point something out.
> On the iphone you can enable/disable voiceover from itunes, from your
> computer. Great stuff, but... but!
> In case of an iphone upgrade or restore, itunes does not want to know
> anything until you have entered your pin code on the iphone! Impossible to
> do without sighted assistance... It is one of the big reason I returned to
> Nokia, because in case of a reset I can set country/date:time on myself
> and reinstall a screenreader, without having to ask for someone to help...
> Independance is a priority for me.
> Maybe if apple do something to correct this I will reconsider. But since I
> plan some... Software experiments with my Iphone I cannot ask and ask and
> ask again to reenter my pin code for me to reennable voiceover...
>
> Or perhaps I missed something ?
>
> Regards
>
>
> Julien
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 12:15 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>
>
>> Hi Hussein,
>>
>> Yes, you can just triple tap again to enable it, so long as you set it up
>> in
>> settings, see my previous message.
>>
>> All the best
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Hussein Patwa
>> Sent: Friday 9 April 2010 17:06
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
>> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> True, but when you turn voiceover off, does this also remove all
>> voiceover
>> related gestures so the device acts as though it was never enabled to
>> begin
>> with? The next question is, can you enable voiceover again without
>> signed
>> assistance?
>>
>> If the answer to both is yes, then that's great to hear. But, we
>> couldn't
>> get that to work with either the iPod Touch, iPhone or iPad.
>>
>> Well, I just received a note from Apple to say the iPhone is arriving
>> Monday. So I have the weekend to read up on it and get myself all
>> excited
>> ready for the courier to arrive.
>>
>> _______________________________________
>> Have a pleasant day,
>>
>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>
>> Hussein.
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Sunil Peck
>> Sent: 09 April 2010 17:00
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
>> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>
>> I think you're mixing two things up. The gesture you're talking about
>> mutes
>> the speech. A triple tap of the home button turns voiceover off.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Damon Rose
>> Sent: 09 April 2010 16:55
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
>> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>
>> I think blindie gestures still apply if you turn Voiceover off with the
>> double tap of three fingers. Am I wrong?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> Hussein Patwa
>> Sent: 09 April 2010 15:01
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
>> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>
>> Ah, OK. I didn't realise that. I thought when you killed voiceover it
>> didn't actually close the app completely. But I'll know for myself
>> tomorrow
>> if my iPhone arrives.
>>
>> _______________________________________
>> Have a pleasant day,
>>
>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>
>> Hussein.
>>
>> Hussein Patwa
>> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK)
>> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP)
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of
>> william lomas
>> Sent: 09 April 2010 14:04
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
>> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>
>> no you can tripple tap the home button and then turn on voiceover that
>> way
>> so you can tripple click to turn it off completely and then reverse it
>>
>> On 9 Apr 2010, at 14:02, Hussein Patwa wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Actually, the only annoyance with voiceover, and I'm not sure if this
>> holds
>>> for the Symbian readers, is that you can't mute the voice and kill the
>>
>>> voiceover gestures at the same time so a sighted person could fully
>>> use
>> the
>>> phone without conflict with the voiceover gestures. You can kill
>> voiceover
>>> completely, but then you need to reactive at and you need sight to see
>>
>>> the 'on' option in the little menu that appears.
>>>
>>> I do think the ability to activate the speech via iTunes before the
>>> device is even switched on is rather neat though. It makes it really
>>> handy for those without sighted assistance who don't need to worry
>>> about installing things or configuring access settings before they can
>> get started.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________
>>> Have a pleasant day,
>>>
>>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>>
>>> Hussein.
>>>
>>> Hussein Patwa
>>> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK)
>>> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP)
>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa
>>> Skype: patwaspotterfan2
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>>>
>>> Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>> Of
>>> Hussein Patwa
>>> Sent: 09 April 2010 13:53
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
>>> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Whereas that may be true, you've got to admit for accessibility with a
>> touch
>>> phone voiceover has the competition beat. I'll verify this myself
>>> over
>> the
>>> next day or two, but having been in close touch with someone who's
>>> tried both major screen readers for Symbian, and voiceover for over a
>>> month, I think he's right.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________
>>> Have a pleasant day,
>>>
>>> Kind Regards and Best Wishes,
>>>
>>> Hussein.
>>>
>>> Hussein Patwa
>>> Tel: 0789 47 595 62 (UK)
>>> Tel: +44 (0)122 4433 954 (SIP)
>>> Twitter: www.twitter.com/hussein_patwa
>>> Skype: patwaspotterfan2
>>> GoogleTalk: thewanderingwriter
>>> Web: www.patwanet.co.uk
>>> My Blog: http://patwaspotterfan.livejournal.com
>>>
>>> Find me on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=510013486
>>>
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>> Of
>>> Steve Nutt
>>> Sent: 09 April 2010 11:26
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
>>> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>>
>>> Hi Gordon,
>>>
>>> If you want to know what is in OS 4 for iPhone, just take a seven year
>>
>>> old Symbian phone, and you're about there <Smile>.
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>> Behalf
>> Of
>>> Gordon Keen
>>> Sent: Friday 9 April 2010 08:45
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] iPhone OS 4.0 Features Unveiled-- The
>>> Mac-cessibility Network - News [Lioncourt.com]
>>>
>>>
>>> Apple continue to add functionality to their products.
>>>
>>> http://www.lioncourt.com/2010/04/08/iphone-os-4-0-features-unveiled/
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> G
>>>
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