[access-uk] Re: Unified English Braille (UEB) A QUESTION
- From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 10:14:06 +0100
Because that actually wouldn't solve quite a few of the problems that UEB
does, like each print symbol having one braille representation, each braille
symbol having a definite print representation, and so on. Take our braille
brackets, for example(s)! or should that be exampleggsgg! And how can you
distinguish between when to back translate to open or close paren? There are
many more example(s) of when our braille lets us down for back translation,
and this really is becomming more and more important to a larger percentage
of braille users. And the ability to get an idea of what is going on with
all the different print brackets and quotes when translated into braille is
another, that's just the start!
Though the majority of visually impaired people as a whole is older and
might not be so bothered, when we are only talking currently a few thousand
braille readers max in the country, we really need a system that stands up
to as many tests as possible, then it's easier to teach, learn, produce and
decode. We actually need to realise that UEB would mean more braillists,
more demand for braille, and it be seen as easier to produce and less
expensive! If we leave things as they are, braille usage will continue to
decline, especially in schools, and that is the future. When the current
readers are no longer with us, will there be enough demand for braille to
continue? Quite possibly not, though I do hope that is wrong as I want
braille to flourish whatever the outcome of this. I'm not on BAUK so my only
actual say in this is by filling in the questionaire, which I will do, but I
personally am in favour of UEB. I know so much about it because I did used
to be on BAUK and have followed what is going on since I came off many years
ago now!
Cheers
Dave
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From: "Peter Beasley" <pjbeasley@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:49 AM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Unified English Braille (UEB) A QUESTION
Why don't we justall use grade 1 braille and have done with it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Taylor" <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 9:41 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Unified English Braille (UEB) A QUESTION
> Hi, well, the BLE should be fairly obvious: how to back translate strings
> with numbers in the middle of them, where this sign would be translated
> one
> way or the other, but not necesarily the correct way. As for To, you will
> find there are no sequenced signs in UEB at all, so where there is a space
> in print, you will get one in Braille. Also, who is to say that you
> couldn't
> soon start to get strings starting with an exclamation mark?
>
> Cheers
> Dave
>
>
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> From: "ari" <aridamoulakis@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:32 AM
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Unified English Braille (UEB) A QUESTION
>
> Hi Dave,
> Just one thing why I complained about the code in the first place, I
> wonder
> if you might know the reason why, but why did some contractions, example
> the
> number sign for the ble and the lower f for to get dropped? I know it
> sounds stupid, but I don't see how it caused any confusion? Some others I
> think I can understand, like the com, dis, con, ong, ally, and ation, but
> I
> often feel weird when I read something in UEBC and see ble and some other
> stuff written out like that.
> Ari
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