Hi Steve, Surely though there's always more of a delay if you are using a display, or even Braille Sense, connected because of the fact that it is connected and not an integral part of the phone. Unfortunately I never really got on with the terminology or something like that when I went through the Esys manual. Perhaps I should read it again. I'd love to be convinced. Perhaps we should take it off list!:) Carol P ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx CC: Date: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 9.45 pm Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u 2 > > > Hi Paul, > > They won't. That's because people are still buying that old tech. If they > weren't then the vendors would have to think again. > > I can type just as speedily into my iPhone or android phone with my Esys 12 > or 40 connected to it. The fact that it is one device is no matter, since I > always have one of those phones with me anyway. > > I think the only thing that is faster about those note takers now is instant > on. That is to say turn it on and go. You can almost do that now with > iPhone and Andropid but if you get a Bluetooth glitch then I agree, it could > slow you up a bit, but not significantly. > > If you have an iPhone or Android phone, you should seriously play with > connecting it to your existing note taker. you will be surprised at how > well it works. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: 644(0(1438-742286 > Mob: 644(0(7956-334938 > Fax: 644(0(1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > paul leake > Sent: 19 August 2014 17.20 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u > 2 > > Well Steve, blinkered in the sense that when something new comes > on the scene it think it's perfect and reject what's gone before > out of hand. > > I'm not convinced that I could interview people and produce > written material as speedily using a braille displayand phoneo or > ipad inserting headings and different fonts but I'm happy to be > corrected. > > I'd happily change if I knew it would do the trick but having > just one device has its advantages for portability and quietness > of working. > > I agree it's old technology and they need to get their act > together and coming up with something more versatile. I don't > know that they will though! > Kind regards, > > Paul > Twitter: @paulleake1 > > paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ";Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17.08.45 60100 > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: > twitter on the u 2 > > Hi, > > What kind of blinkers are you talking of? In what way is a > specialist note > taker more efficient than connecting a Braille display to an iOS > or Android > device, which has much more power anyway? > > Now we have AccessNote for iOS, that is a very efficient way of > doing > things. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: 644(0(1438-742286 > Mob: 644(0(7956-334938 > Fax: 644(0(1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of > paul leake > Sent: 19 August 2014 16.44 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: > twitter on the u > 2 > > My point is still valid in itself whether you were discussing > that or not Steve! Of course it's old technology but it still > surprisingly meet is function in certain circumstances. Take off > your blinkers! (smile) > > Kind regards, > > Paul > Twitter: @paulleake1 > > paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: ";Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16.26.45 60100 > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: > twitter on the u 2 > > Hi, > > I don't think that's what we're discussing. My argument is that > considering > the amount you pay for these devices, they are basically based on > 1990's > software. Windows CE on which all of the note takers are based, > will lose > Microsoft support in about 2016 anyway so it's academic. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: 644(0(1438-742286 > Mob: 644(0(7956-334938 > Fax: 644(0(1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of > paul leake > Sent: 18 August 2014 21.27 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: > twitter on the u > 2 > > Different devices work better in different circumstances don't > they? > > Kind regards, > > Paul > Twitter: @paulleake1 > > paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10.04.33 60100 > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: > twitter on the u 2 > > Hi John, Steve et al > > There are advantages and disadvantages to using a touchscreen > device versus > a bespoke note-taker. For me, the advantages of an iOS or > Android device > are universal updates, more choice, size and cost. The > advantages of a > dedicated note-taker are quick access to features like word > processing, one > unit instead of two to carry around, and better battery life. > > I like a mix of both to be honest, perhaps some old habits die > hard? > > > Kind regards, > > Jackie Brown > Emails: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx > thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Twitter: @thebrownsplace > Skype: Thejackmate > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of > john gallagher > Sent: 18 August 2014 09.09 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: > twitter on the u > 2 > > agree steve as progress is made in main stream the dedicated > devices get > left behind every time. the only thing i really love about the > sense is the > satnav and the ability to write out a document very small device > with good > braille. the internet on the us 2 is very fast but very > restricted so wonder > which would be the best way to go. the other plus with a > dedicated device is > batry life. but say tellorion got loads more apps if also it > could run on > more devices but again you must then use a phone and a braille > device but i > do feel the life of a notetaker for the blind is very much in the > late > summer so to speak. > > i do know now that i am using my iphone and the tellorion lots > more than my > pc. this could spark a very big long debate on this topic but > yet a very > very important one. again the big advantage with a dedicated > braille > notetaker is the writing down in braille is so much faster than > on a touch > screen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Sunday, 17 August 2014 11.01 pm > Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2 > > > > Hi Chris, > > Not only that, the Twitter clients on these dedicated devices is > so > primitive. No muting, no filtering, I could go on, but I won't > <Smile>. > But > you pay thousands for these devices and get second rate software > on them. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: 644(0(1438-742286 > Mob: 644(0(7956-334938 > Fax: 644(0(1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf > Of > Christopher Hallsworth > Sent: 17 August 2014 20.56 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2 > > Sounds like I agree with you Steve so let us both rant smile. > > Christopher Hallsworth > Student at the Hadley School for the Blind > www.hadley.edu > > On 17/08/2014 19.38, Steve Nutt wrote: > Hi, > > This is why I don't like these darned dedicated devices. If > Twitter > gets > up > the spout on a phone or tablet, you'll get an update in hours, > not days. > > Rant over. > > All the best > > Steve > > -- > Computer Room Services > 77 Exeter Close > Stevenage > Hertfordshire > SG1 4PW > Tel: 644(0(1438-742286 > Mob: 644(0(7956-334938 > Fax: 644(0(1438-759589 > Email: steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Web: http://www.comproom.co.uk > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf > Of > Jackie Brown > Sent: 16 August 2014 20.42 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2 > > Hi John > > Yes it is up the spout again!! I will let them know about it on > Monday. > I > think they must be working on my retweet problem! 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