[access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u 2

From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:30:34 +0100
hi paul how nice to hear you on the list. 

interesting chat about this topic and yes though the sense is old tech there is 
still loads going for it.  looking forward to the upgrade with the iphones and 
the like if sheffield wednesday win the league it may buy a windows 7 tablet.   
      

----- Original Message -----
From: paul leake <paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 7.06 pm
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: twitter on the u 2

>
>
> That's exactly it Jackie.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Paul
>  Twitter: @paulleake1
> 
> paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jackie Brown <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18.44.17 60100
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: 
> twitter on the u 2
> 
> As I say, there are merits for both.  I had occasion to write 
> something down this afternoon which a friend of ours read to me 
> from a piece of paper containing print and handwriting.  My Sense 
> was at hand to do this.  I couldn't have written down the info 
> anywhere near as quickly using an iPhone or iPad, and if I had 
> got my Bluetooth keyboard out to write on that, it would still 
> have taken longer to pair it than using my immediately available 
> Sense.  So while I agree the technology is old, there is really 
> no substitute for a specialist device in situations such as I 
> have described above.  They have their place, but they need to 
> come down in price, and have better beta testing.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Jackie Brown
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: paul leake <paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, 19 August 2014 17.21
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was: 
> twitter on the u 2
> 
> 
> 
>  Well Steve, blinkered in the sense that when something new comes
>  on the scene it think it's perfect and reject what's gone before
>  out of hand.
> 
>  I'm not convinced that I could interview people and produce
>  written material as speedily using a braille displayand phoneo 
> or
>  ipad inserting headings and different fonts but I'm happy to be
>  corrected.
> 
>  I'd happily change if I knew it would do the trick but having
>  just one device has its advantages for portability and quietness
>  of working.
> 
>  I agree it's old technology and they need to get their act
>  together and coming up with something more versatile.  I don't
>  know that they will though!
>  Kind regards,
> 
>  Paul
>   Twitter: @paulleake1
> 
>  paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "beSteve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 17.08.45 60100
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
>  twitter on the u 2
> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  What kind of blinkers are you talking of?  In what way is a
>  specialist note
>  taker more efficient than connecting a Braille display to an iOS
>  or Android
>  device, which has much more power anyway?
> 
>  Now we have AccessNote for iOS, that is a very efficient way of
>  doing
>  things.
> 
>  All the best
> 
>  Steve
> 
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> 
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On
>  Behalf Of
>  paul leake
>  Sent: 19 August 2014 16.44
>  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
>  twitter on the u
>  2
> 
>  My point is still valid in itself whether you were discussing
>  that or not Steve! Of course it's old technology but it still
>  surprisingly meet is function in certain circumstances.  Take 
> off
>  your blinkers! (smile)
> 
>  Kind regards,
> 
>  Paul
>   Twitter: @paulleake1
> 
>  paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "beSteve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date sent: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16.26.45 60100
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
>  twitter on the u 2
> 
>  Hi,
> 
>  I don't think that's what we're discussing.  My argument is that
>  considering
>  the amount you pay for these devices, they are basically based 
> on
>  1990's
>  software.  Windows CE on which all of the note takers are based,
>  will lose
>  Microsoft support in about 2016 anyway so it's academic.
> 
>  All the best
> 
>  Steve
> 
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>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On
>  Behalf Of
>  paul leake
>  Sent: 18 August 2014 21.27
>  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
>  twitter on the u
>  2
> 
>  Different devices work better in different circumstances don't
>  they?
> 
>  Kind regards,
> 
>  Paul
>   Twitter: @paulleake1
> 
>  paul.leake@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
>  To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date sent: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 10.04.33 60100
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
>  twitter on the u 2
> 
>  Hi John, Steve et al
> 
>  There are advantages and disadvantages to using a touchscreen
>  device versus
>  a bespoke note-taker.  For me, the advantages of an iOS or
>  Android device
>  are universal updates, more choice, size and cost.  The
>  advantages of a
>  dedicated note-taker are quick access to features like word
>  processing, one
>  unit instead of two to carry around, and better battery life.
> 
>  I like a mix of both to be honest, perhaps some old habits die
>  hard?
> 
> 
>  Kind regards,
> 
>  Jackie Brown
>  Emails: jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
>  thebrownsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Twitter: @thebrownsplace
>  Skype: Thejackmate
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> On
>  Behalf Of
>  john gallagher
>  Sent: 18 August 2014 09.09
>  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: Specialist versus mainstream, was:
>  twitter on the u
>  2
> 
>  agree steve as progress is made in main stream the dedicated
>  devices get
>  left behind every time.  the only thing i really love about the
>  sense is the
>  satnav and the ability to write out a document very small device
>  with good
>  braille.  the internet on the us 2 is very fast but very
>  restricted so wonder
>  which would be the best way to go.  the other plus with a
>  dedicated device is
>  batry life.  but say tellorion got loads more apps if also it
>  could run on
>  more devices but again you must then use a phone and a braille
>  device but i
>  do feel the life of a notetaker for the blind is very much in 
> the
>  late
>  summer so to speak.
> 
>  i do know now that i am using my iphone and the tellorion lots
>  more than my
>  pc.  this could spark a very big long debate on this topic but
>  yet a very
>  very important one.  again the big advantage with a dedicated
>  braille
>  notetaker is the writing down in braille is so much faster than
>  on a touch
>  screen.
> 
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Steve Nutt <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Date: Sunday, 17 August 2014 11.01 pm
>  Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2
> 
> 
> 
>   Hi Chris,
> 
>   Not only that, the Twitter clients on these dedicated devices 
> is
>  so
>   primitive.  No muting, no filtering, I could go on, but I won't
>  <Smile>.
>  But
>   you pay thousands for these devices and get second rate 
> software
>  on them.
> 
>   All the best
> 
>   Steve
> 
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>  On Behalf
>  Of
>   Christopher Hallsworth
>   Sent: 17 August 2014 20.56
>   To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2
> 
>   Sounds like I agree with you Steve so let us both rant smile.
> 
>   Christopher Hallsworth
>   Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
>   www.hadley.edu
> 
>   On 17/08/2014 19.38, Steve Nutt wrote:
>   Hi,
> 
>   This is why I don't like these darned dedicated devices.  If
>  Twitter
>  gets
>   up
>   the spout on a phone or tablet, you'll get an update in hours,
>  not days.
> 
>   Rant over.
> 
>   All the best
> 
>   Steve
> 
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>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>  On Behalf
>   Of
>   Jackie Brown
>   Sent: 16 August 2014 20.42
>   To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Subject: [access-uk] Re: twitter on the u 2
> 
>   Hi John
> 
>   Yes it is up the spout again!! I will let them know about it on
>  Monday.
>  I
>   think they must be working on my retweet problem! (smile).
> 
>   Kind regards,
> 
>   Jackie Brown
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: john gallagher <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Date: Saturday, 16 August 2014 19.58
>   Subject: [access-uk] twitter on the u 2
> 
>   0was
>   0was hi there ian or jacky just wonder if you're twitter workis
>  on the u 2
>   just
>   tried it and it says no message it does work on the iphone
>  though i have
>   done a reset that's a major one but still the same result.
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