[access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info
- From: william lomas <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2010 11:42:03 +0100
the electronic program guide
On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:30 AM, spring.flower wrote:
> forgive my thickness but what does epg stand for?
>
> Trace
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu"
> <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:18 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info
>
>
>> Hi William.
>>
>> I don't know, seeing as I don't have a sky plus box, but I don't think so,
>> only the EPG, menu system and current and next program information like the
>> freeview box that RNIB sell. That is all I know so until the device comes
>> out its a question of watch this space.
>>
>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas"
>> <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:13 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info
>>
>>
>>> will it read plannr then
>>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Ibrahim Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Damon.
>>>>
>>>> The manager I know at Sky swares that they've seen it in action, and that
>>>> it indeed does provide access to the EPG and menu system on the box,
>>>> though not the interactive services as in those accessed through the
>>>> telephone line. As you say, we'll know more when the product is released
>>>> in a month so plenty of time to fuel the flames of room our until then ay?
>>>> *smile*.
>>>>
>>>> All the best, Ibrahim.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 3:23 PM
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I think we need to wait til it comes out or we get further statements.
>>>>> The price has been quoted differently at 45 and 60 pounds so clearly
>>>>> someone's confusing something. I think that we shouldn't see Sky
>>>>> Accessible Customer services as a wholly believable source based on
>>>>> previous issues. But they were quite insistant it's not a talking EPG.
>>>>> And by all accounts, RNIB couldn't make it talk when they hacked the box
>>>>> so perhaps this is the case which many people will be disappointed with.
>>>>> But I think helpful dialogue needs to come from this if indeed it is a
>>>>> let down.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...Damon
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>>>>> Of william lomas
>>>>> Sent: 24 September 2010 15:18
>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest no one buy shtis so sky have waste r and d funds
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 3:13 PM, Damon Rose wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> It does record but it doesn't give you 7 days of programmes to choose
>>>>>> from like the EPG does. And then we can assume that you can't access
>>>>>> the programmes you've recorded because apparently this machine doesn't
>>>>>
>>>>>> read menus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I should note that I got this info from the Accessible Customer
>>>>>> Services line. I pressed her a number of times and she stated clearly
>>>>>> that it is not a talking EPG. It's also worth noting that they are
>>>>>> customer support people, not press handlers, and so the information
>>>>>> possibly hasn't been honed or framed in the best way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...Damon
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Francis Holman
>>>>>> Sent: 24 September 2010 14:59
>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well if it does not record what's the point. I think I will stick
>>>>>> with my portset freeview at least that does most things including
>>>>>> reading the epg and recording.
>>>>>> Fran.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 2:47 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sky Talker: much more info
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> sixty quid to read basic information?
>>>>>>> Ibraheem what please does the supposed manager of accessibility team
>>>>>>> have to say about this?
>>>>>>> Can he please come on this list to clarify what we are getting for
>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> money?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Damon Rose wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I missed a rather important point. Sorry don't know how I edited it
>>>>>> out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can use the search and scan banner and find out what's on up to
>>>>>>>> twelve hours in the future. I think you will be able to hit record
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> top of the programme so that it gets recorded and added to your sky
>>>>>>>> planner. Of course, the slight issue is you can't then read your sky
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> planner and watch it back.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Damon Rose
>>>>>>>> Sent: 24 September 2010 14:28
>>>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Sky Talker: much more info
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sky Talker comes out on 26 October. Price is 60 pounds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The box looks like a Sky Broadband router. It's black. It has a
>>>>>>>> volume up and down switch for the voice on its top.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are 9 available voices male and female. You can adjust their
>>>>>>>> tone and speed.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can't access the EPG or any of the menus, it only works from
>>>>>>>> within the channel you're watching. It'll say what channel and what
>>>>>>>> programme is on now on the channel you've selected.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The play, record, rewind and pause buttons all speak. You will get a
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> warning every 60 seconds if you leave it on pause so you know what's
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> happening.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can press the remote's 'I' info button for a programme synopsis.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it also speaks channel numbers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Damon Rose
>>>>>>>> Senior Content Producer Ouch! website and talk show BBC Vision
>>>>>>>> Learning
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tel: 020 8752 4427 (x0224427)
>>>>>>>> email: damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>> Twitter: @damonrose
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bbc.co.uk/ouch is home of the Ouch! Talk Show online since 2006.
>>>>>>>> Disability chat like wot you'd have with yer mates - via podcast or
>>>>>>>> streamed on the web:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/podcast
>>>>>>>> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/ouch/podcast>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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