[access-uk] Re: Sherlock Talking Label Identifier
- From: "Philip Martin" <p.martin13@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:32:26 -0000
Hi Jackie and Carol,
Now for some sanity. You say Braille labels are easiest, but you don't mention
about the hassle of Brailing the label in the first place, even if unlike me
you can read the damn thing in less then five minutes. Those of us who lost
sight later in life are doubly disadvantaged, we can't manage Braille at a
reasonable speed and we have been used to seeing items wherever we left them,
and used to be able to manage even though totally disorganised. The Voila is a
piece of cake compared to using any screen reader. If you can manage to feel
Braille surely you can manage to feel the raised edge of the Voila label.
Seriously, if you are still talking to Sherlock, can you tell me how close
you need the business end of the reader to be to the label to read it, I assume
it does not need to be in contact. Also as this is a radio frequency device
there may be a problem if the label is stuck to a metal tin.
Any comments welcome.
Best regards
Philip
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Cairns
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sherlock Talking Label Identifier
Carol, you take hold of Sherlock (preferably round the bloody throat at the
moment), and point it at a blank label. Once it has identified that there is
no info on it, you can then record your message. Then you can go and attach
your label to whatever you want identified, and then point Sherlock at it when
you need to find out what that something is. It's just fiddly though, and I
don't think the self-adhesive labels would stretch to too many re-uses.
But this is just my perspective remember. Others may find it useful and
swear blind by its accessibility. Personally no way. Like you, I keep my
cupboards and boxes in order so I know where to go and what to look for. I
have seldom ever had to ask my son or anyone else with sight what's what and I
don't think I've poisoned anybody yet (big smile).
Hope this is of some help. I wouldn't want to give a false impression if you
were thinking of spending money. Equally, if you could try before you buy, you
might like it.
Jackie
----- Original Message -----
From: Carol Pearson
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 3:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sherlock Talking Label Identifier
Jackie,
Thanks for your additional comments.
I am with you on this one, never having found anything quite suitable,
apart from Braille, and the Voiler just wasn't worth anything; but these days
there's so much to label that changes frequently in the kitchen that I tend to
use Talking Tins, put other items just where I can find them ... and so it goes
on!
Do you have to record the label in the machine itself, or can this be
recorded without placing the label into the handheld?
--
Carol
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Cairns
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:42 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sherlock Talking Label Identifier
Hi Carol
The labels are easily scanned once recorded. The non-adhesive ones are
like small discs that have a hole in them where you could attach string or a
tie. I would have preferred to see a magnet on these so you could clamp them
to a tin or the freezer door. You get ten of those in a bag, and several more
self-adhesive labels that you can stick on jars etc. I haven't tried peeling
one off and re-using it yet though.
I'm not sure of the whole concept of talking identifiers yet. I didn't
like Voila because the labels were very tiny, and I never got the knack of
swiping them with the end of the unit because it kept shutting off before I
cracked it. The Sherlock is, to me, better than that, but I don't know if I
would have bought it though. I use my ever faithful Dymo gun to label CDs, and
plastic sheets that you can cut to identify larger items. I use the Talking
Tins for the obvious, and I keep documentation in a proper filing system that I
can access no bother. Just not sure anything could ever be as quick for me to
access as Braille. It's the greatest skill I probably ever mastered as a child
and still love using to this day.
Anyone else used speech identifiers and want to add something?
Jackie
----- Original Message -----
From: Carol Pearson
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sherlock Talking Label Identifier
Glad to know you've got Old Sherlock going ... and you're finding it
better than the Voiler. Are the labels re-useable? Are they easily scanned
once recorded?
I'm thinking about this item and wonder how useful the labels would be,
say, on spice jars which aren't that easily labelled.
Any further comments most welcome, Jackie.
--
Carol
carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message -----
From: Jackie Cairns
To: Access UK Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:27 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Sherlock Talking Label Identifier
I have now got old Sherlock going, and I have to say it isn't exactly
rocket science to work it, particularly thanks to the PDF manual Steve sent my
way.
When you first pick up old Sherlock, as I've sort of named him, it
feels a bit like the Colorino detector with its speaker and two buttons on the
front. There are some non-adhesive labels you can use, and some that you can
peel off the backing and attach to an item for identification. The speech and
indications leave the Voila for dead, as do the labels themselves, which are
better to get a grip of without flying to the ground unheard. I wish the
non-adhesive labels had been magnetic so that I could have put them on tins of
beans and spaghetti etc, but it's certainly an interesting concept for anyone
wanting to identify items in this way.
Jackie
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