Hi Wendy I don't want to be unkind to the manufacturers or suppliers of Sherlock and any of these talking identifiers. But having played with Sherlock for some time today, I'm ready to scream to be honest, or he will be screaming if I throw him against the nearest wall (smile). Perhaps it's completely me, in which case, no problem. But I can't stand the messing about that's required to work these labelling systems. I just went into the kitchen and stuck a few labels on jars etc. Then I had to go through the noise and hassle of scanning them, and I would have just been far quicker taking the lids off and smelling the contents. Sorry but that's how I've always got by. I quite like the Talking Tins because you can't just unscrew a lid and see what's inside without using an opener to permanently remove the top. Only once have I ever opened a tin and chucked what I thought was a can of baked beans into my hot pot, only to discover when we came to eat it that it was, in fact, fruit cocktail. Mind you, it went down a treat so it didn't matter (smile). I appreciate those who cannot access Braille need alternative methods, but I'm not sure these products are all they are cracked up to be either. I sold my Voila days after I got it because it was just one product I knew I would never ever use, and I think Sherlock will go to a good home too, if I'm being honest. It's easy enough to use, but not for me. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Sharpe To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:59 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sherlock Talking Label Identifier Hi Jackie I did buy a Voila second-hand, and did manage to crack scanning the labels in time, but I found the labels rather fiddly and haven't used it much. I do so agree with you about braille. It is far quicker for everything you need to access in a hurry. I use old RNIB calendar sheets cut in half and braille on the other side, then attach them to tins with an elastic band. In this way you can use the labels many times. Just take them off the tins as you use them, and put them on another tin when you buy the same product again. I use the RNIB narrow self-adhesive labels to put on CD's and other things. I suppose talking labelling systems are ok for people who can't use braille, but they are rather expensive. I gather that the Voila can run out of recording time, so if you record too many labels it won't work. I wonder whether Sherlock will have the same problem. Wendy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jackie Cairns Sent: 11 December 2007 14:43 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sherlock Talking Label Identifier Hi Carol The labels are easily scanned once recorded. The non-adhesive ones are like small discs that have a hole in them where you could attach string or a tie. I would have preferred to see a magnet on these so you could clamp them to a tin or the freezer door. You get ten of those in a bag, and several more self-adhesive labels that you can stick on jars etc. I haven't tried peeling one off and re-using it yet though. I'm not sure of the whole concept of talking identifiers yet. I didn't like Voila because the labels were very tiny, and I never got the knack of swiping them with the end of the unit because it kept shutting off before I cracked it. The Sherlock is, to me, better than that, but I don't know if I would have bought it though. I use my ever faithful Dymo gun to label CDs, and plastic sheets that you can cut to identify larger items. I use the Talking Tins for the obvious, and I keep documentation in a proper filing system that I can access no bother. Just not sure anything could ever be as quick for me to access as Braille. It's the greatest skill I probably ever mastered as a child and still love using to this day. Anyone else used speech identifiers and want to add something? Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Pearson To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Sherlock Talking Label Identifier Glad to know you've got Old Sherlock going ... and you're finding it better than the Voiler. Are the labels re-useable? Are they easily scanned once recorded? I'm thinking about this item and wonder how useful the labels would be, say, on spice jars which aren't that easily labelled. Any further comments most welcome, Jackie. -- Carol carol.pearson@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: Jackie Cairns To: Access UK Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 1:27 PM Subject: [access-uk] Sherlock Talking Label Identifier I have now got old Sherlock going, and I have to say it isn't exactly rocket science to work it, particularly thanks to the PDF manual Steve sent my way. When you first pick up old Sherlock, as I've sort of named him, it feels a bit like the Colorino detector with its speaker and two buttons on the front. There are some non-adhesive labels you can use, and some that you can peel off the backing and attach to an item for identification. The speech and indications leave the Voila for dead, as do the labels themselves, which are better to get a grip of without flying to the ground unheard. I wish the non-adhesive labels had been magnetic so that I could have put them on tins of beans and spaghetti etc, but it's certainly an interesting concept for anyone wanting to identify items in this way. Jackie