[access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:17:09 +0100
Two or three comments will be enough from this non-JFW user.
Doug of GW says that Eric Dammery has admitted JFW dowsn't work propperly with
MS Access.
GW's access to Excel will be second to none in the Fall. Same will go for
Powerpoint.
Firefox will be usable by Window-Eyes too in 5.5. So will Sonar.
For those people who have stopped shoveling money FS's way to cover upgrades or
SMA's then, if you want to keep up with the game, they'll get you eventually.
Friend of mine spent £400 plus last year upgrading to the Pro version, or
whatever its called. She's now being asked to spend another £400 to keep
current.
I do NOT pretend for one instant that WE can solve the immediate problems
around some programs, which are either badly designed from the outset, or whose
develpers dont give a fig for screen reader access. That goes for Coral and
WordPerfect. Access vendors are simply deafed out by them.
Given a longish time frame I am sure that GW will address all aspects of MS
Office, and I wish they'd prioritized that sooner. I think version 6 may well
see substantial improvements and inovations in the abilities of set files too.
GW is up against the lead HJ established back in the 90s. FS seem to have
squandered that, if not lost the plot almost entirely. I'd say from what I
hear of JFW 6.x the version numbers game has to be resorted to more and more to
give the appearance of superiority.
This is without consideration of human-to-human support which GW is justly
proud of. Its probably fair to say that Window-Eyes - and maybe Dolphin's HAL
- are far more trustworthy candidates to be trusted on a server for remote
access, which for some may become important soon.
Meanwhile the true supporterssupporters here have to fall back on football type
support of the product, a bit like Man. U supporters. Don't think they won the
cup last time around did they? If FS continues with its present stance, it
might lose like Government's losing elections rather than oppositions winning
on their policies.
Its understandable the JFW industry and all its self-assured, sometimes Royally
supercileous, hangers on resort to impatient in-takes of breath, as one Royal
did last week when I was looking at Apple's screen reader. Everyone has to
earn a living I guess, and the school of script wizzards certainly does. And
will carry on doing so, as soon as their latest efforts get broken by software
developers. Oh, well that's the way the money goes.
Ray
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Logue" <peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:39 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap
>I must admit that I too have Window Eyes on this system and I'm toying with
> it. I can't yet say I'm convinced though as Window Eyes doesn't seem to be
> that great with Access, Excel, etc. I tried it once with MSN Messenger and it
> just didn't do the job. I am impressed by how stable and responsive it is
> though. You can't fault Window Eyes for that. As to Jaws, its getting
> sluggish, there's no doubt and I can't say I'm impressed by FS's business
> practices that seem to care more for their bottom line than accessibility for
> blind and VI computer users. By the way, now that we're up to Jaws 6, does it
> work with Corel Word Perfect yet, or are they still in bed with Microsoft?
>
>
> Peter
>
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