[access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap

  • From: "simon.dowling" <simodowl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:32:45 +0100

OH DEAR! ANOTHER SCREEN READER WAR ME THINKS! LOL.
COME ON YOU DOLPHINS!
----- Original Message ----- From: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:26 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap



Though at home my video drivers have never been updated, here at work I
understand that's not an issue. That said I'm not about to move over to
WindowEyes because I think the people who like it are a bit peculiar,
have hair on the palms of their hands and may also be radio hams.





-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of George Bell
Sent: 25 July 2005 14:24
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap



If JAWS 6.2 was generally as bad as has been suggested, I'm sure there would be many, many more postings.

As Brian and Sunil have both said, in many cases where
problems are experienced, it comes down to some other system factor or
factors.  These days, it is essential to keep your system up to date,
not just with Microsoft Critical and Recommended Updates, but also video
and sound drivers. Microsoft don't generally supply more than basic
generic drivers, leaving it to the manufacturers of the video and sound
cards to provide their own.  It's all too easy to forget to update
these.

All screen readers have to rely of sound and video, and
since this kind of software relies heavily on both media,
any weaknesses can cause major discomfort.

Unfortunately too, JAWS has relocated their script files in order to
allow users who share one PC to maintain different user profiles.
Again, it is easy to forget to merge previous setting with the new, and
indeed it can be a tricky process in itself.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Brian
Hartgen
Sent: 25 July 2005 14:03
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap

Well done Sunil for putting it so eloquently. It could be
a
whole variety of factors.
Brian Hartgen
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:46 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap


> Because the problems he's having just might not have
anything to do
> with JFW? It could be something else on his system
interfering with
> Jaws and preventing it from doing its excellent
job...JAWS
RULES, OK.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Peter Beasley
> Sent: 25 July 2005 13:41
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap
>
>
> Why not try Window-eyes
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:20 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am not impressed with jaws 6.* at all.
>>
>> Reason being that it has screwed up some of the
functions
that I use
>> very very regularly almost every minute of the day at
work.
>>
>> Its responsiveness has died when it comes to writing. I

always have
>> the echo set to words. After you've written about 3 or
4 words the
>> echo fails to be as responsive and so you're writing
blind, as it
>> were.
>>
>> Also I've noticed that my soundcard fails with JAWS 6.2
- I find
>> myself regularly having to turn my computer off and
back
on again -
>> it
>
>> is not something that can be fixed with a simple
unloading of jaws.
>> The braille works but the speech dies several times a
day.
>>
>> The control+F find function in Internet Explorer -
though everso
>> slightly better than the Find funtion in jaws 6.0 - is
nearly useless.
>
>> I use this feature very regularly to find words and
character strings
>> on a web page to avoid having to search a whole screen
manually. All
>> user testing of websites I've done with jaws users
shows
me that lots
>> of blind people use control+f in this way. Actually
every
single one
>> of the people I've tested uses it in this way very
frequently
>> throughout the day. To have it broken and or very badly

responsive is
>> bad enough. To have a find function that, when you hit
enter,
>> actually
>
>> activates a hot spot on the page and sends you to
another
page rather
>> than searching down is a joke. And oftentimes the
control+F find
>> function tells me a string doesn't exist on the page
when
I know it
>> damn well does.
>>
>> Grrr.
>>
>> Is anyone else deeply unimpressed with jaws 6 series?
I'm
yet to find
>> anything better in it than jaws 5.
>>
>> ...Damon
>>
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