[access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap

  • From: "andrew shipp" <andrew-shipp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:19:43 +0100

Hello Andy, I agree with every thing you say here, I am so fed up with all the problems with Jaws every time they release a new version or a patch there are problems so I am going over to another screen reader Window-eyes.
----- Original Message ----- From: "kevin and emma" <kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 5:04 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap



hi andy, this is why i've still got jfw 4.2 on this system and use it just
as much as i do 6.2. while i like some of the features in 6.2, 4.2 seems to
behave better on the net! or maybe it's just the websites i use! smile.
Kevin - co-owner/moderator of the blind gamers discussion list
contact me via email/msn:
kream@xxxxxxxxxxxx
----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" <Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 3:08 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap



Yes Brian that's true, but I have deliberately chosen not to take out
another SMA for JFW, because recent releases seem to cause more problems
than they offer advancements for. Yes, JFW is very sophisticated now, but
with each upgrade, too many other things get broken, so in a way, it can
feel like we're standing still with this product, as we are given some
improvements, but at the cost of things that did work, being broken, it's
like giving with one hand, and taking with the other, and not all of us
are
prepared to keep falling for this!

Andy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Hartgen" <brian@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 2:03 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap



> Well done Sunil for putting it so eloquently. It could be a whole
variety
> of factors.
> Brian Hartgen
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> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sunil" <bosley20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 1:46 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap
>
>
>> Because the problems he's having just might not have anything to do
with
>> JFW? It could be something else on his system interfering with Jaws >> and
>> preventing it from doing its excellent job...JAWS RULES, OK.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf
>> Of Peter Beasley
>> Sent: 25 July 2005 13:41
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap
>>
>>
>> Why not try Window-eyes
>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Damon Rose" <damon.rose@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2005 12:20 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Jaws 6.2 - generally a bit crap
>>
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am not impressed with jaws 6.* at all.
>>>
>>> Reason being that it has screwed up some of the functions that I use
>>> very very regularly almost every minute of the day at work.
>>>
>>> Its responsiveness has died when it comes to writing. I always have
>>> the echo set to words. After you've written about 3 or 4 words the
>>> echo fails to be as responsive and so you're writing blind, as it
>>> were.
>>>
>>> Also I've noticed that my soundcard fails with JAWS 6.2 - I find
>>> myself regularly having to turn my computer off and back on again - >>> it
>>
>>> is not something that can be fixed with a simple unloading of jaws.
>>> The braille works but the speech dies several times a day.
>>>
>>> The control+F find function in Internet Explorer - though everso
>>> slightly better than the Find funtion in jaws 6.0 - is nearly >>> useless.
>>
>>> I use this feature very regularly to find words and character strings
>>> on a web page to avoid having to search a whole screen manually. All
>>> user testing of websites I've done with jaws users shows me that lots
>>> of blind people use control+f in this way. Actually every single one
>>> of the people I've tested uses it in this way very frequently
>>> throughout the day. To have it broken and or very badly responsive is
>>> bad enough. To have a find function that, when you hit enter, >>> actually
>>
>>> activates a hot spot on the page and sends you to another page rather
>>> than searching down is a joke. And oftentimes the control+F find
>>> function tells me a string doesn't exist on the page when I know it
>>> damn well does.
>>>
>>> Grrr.
>>>
>>> Is anyone else deeply unimpressed with jaws 6 series? I'm yet to find
>>> anything better in it than jaws 5.
>>>
>>> ...Damon
>>>
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