Hi Andy, First, you have to download the IOS5 in the normal way for an upgrade, via ITunes, and only after that, with the additional functionality, will you be able to download IOS updates via the Cloud, if you wish. Siri is an electronic personal assistant, again operating from the Cloud somewhere (in other words a server off someone's computer, somewhere) and he can accomplish certain tasks. You may wish to join the ViPhone list which is a real good source for information, if rather a busy list. I am not sure that this will work, but you could try to send an email to viphone+subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and see what happens. There are lots of discourses with Siri on YouTube. -- Carol P ----- Original Message ----- From: ANDY COLLINS To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:02 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: IOS5 gains and losses? Carol - Siri? What is that, and is it available on the Touch or just the phone? Also wanted to try to upgrade the IOS via the cloud, but not sure where I'll find the means on the device for doing that? Thanks - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Pearson To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 11:39 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: IOS5 gains and losses? You'll be able to upgrade IOS via "The Cloud" so won't need your computer for that task. You also can backup that way, though not music as yet, which is really annoying. You don't absolutely have to use the male voice (though I like him personally) but could opt for the lesser quality American or Australian voices if you wished, and of course can alter these on the fly if you choose. I must admit, whilst I struggle with Siri in accuracy when dictating, I do like to be able to choose a song. I also like my incoming male and messages read out as in the Notification Centre. To be honest, I think it's worth upgrading, or you could find some apps don't work any more. -- Carol P ---- Original Message ---- From: ANDY COLLINS To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 8:26 PM Subject: [access-uk] IOS5 gains and losses? > Hi all - > > Before I upgrade my IPod to ios5, can anybody tell me the > pros and cons of doing so? I understand there is only a > male voice available for Voice Over, but what else will > change please. I like it the way I have it, but would > like the use of voice commands - > > Andy