[access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
- From: "Barry Toner" <barry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:12:17 -0000
Hi Ibrahim,
I've found that emailing the Apple App Store everytime and explaining an App
wasn't VO Accessible gets me my cash back.
I also, always contact the Dev for the App and politely ask them to make it
VO Accessible, giving a bit of background and pointing them to the Apple
Guidelines plus this great Dev BLOG
http://goo.gl/8s4C3
The IOS Devs for the most part aren't like large Corporate affairs who make
PC Apps. In some cases it's simple to make it VO Accessible as a patch in
other cases not so much, but I've found and so have others IOS Devs are 99%
all to willing to help.
Cheers,
Barry.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:52 PM
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>
> Hi Jim.
>
> Well, applevis is probably the only website I really use if I'm looking
> for
> something specific and want to find out whether someone else has tested
> an
> app before, but generally speaking I'll just go and download apps and
> try
> them on the off chance that they'll be accessible or at least usable.
> The
> problem comes when you download paid for apps which aren't accessible,
> and
> all you can do really is grit your teeth and learn a lesson or two as
> Apple
> are quite reluctant to give refunds unless there is a very good
> reasoning
> behind your request. This is from personal experience and in no way
> reflects on the staff working at the online stores service desk, but it
> all
> depends on who you get and how sympathetic they are to you. I've come
> across some really snotty individuals who will either question you on
> the
> specific reason you want a refund and insist on testing the app for
> themselves, either that or turn down a refund request outright. In
> contrast
> though, there are some really good staff whom are a pleasure to deal
> with
> and who are only too happy to help.
>
> All the best and good luck on your app search.
>
> Take care, Ibrahim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jim" <j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 10:22 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
>
>
> > Hi Ibrahim,
> >
> > It would be very useful to know what apps are accessible and which
> are
> > not. I wonder if someone could put up a list of accessible tried and
> > tested ones for blind and visually impaired people, other than
> applevis.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ibrahim Gucukoglu" <ibrahim_gucukoglu@xxxxxxxx>
> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2011 12:55 AM
> > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to recommend
> >
> >
> >> Hi Jim.
> >>
> >> I'm an IPhone user, if there's any app you want me to test out and
> its
> >> free I'll be happy to give it a go, time permitting of course. I
> use
> >> lots of apps for lots of different things, so I've a good list of
> apps I
> >> use and can recommend.
> >>
> >> All the best, Ibrahim.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "jim" <j_doherty2@xxxxxxx>
> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 8:12 PM
> >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi Jackie,
> >>>
> >>> I hope you keep these tried and tested out apps coming to the list,
> I
> >>> got tune radio after reading your email and its fantastic. Thanks
> and
> >>> keep testing them out for us ipod touch users its appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Jim
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 12:39 PM
> >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Hi David
> >>>>
> >>>> I went into the App Store on my iPod Touch, then went to
> categories. I
> >>>> got
> >>>> the English Dictionary and Thesaurus, World Fact Book 2011, and
> Birds
> >>>> of
> >>>> Britain under the reference section. I bought Quick News UK under
> the
> >>>> news
> >>>> section, and I think I bought Tune In under the music category.
> >>>>
> >>>> I was having a look at an app I could possibly try to get that
> would be
> >>>> like
> >>>> Teletext, and came across one for 59p which gives Ceefax and some
> >>>> foreign
> >>>> services. But they aren't compatible with VoiceOver, so I've had
> to
> >>>> call
> >>>> that one a day I reckon. I have also downloaded a free TV Guide
> which
> >>>> seems
> >>>> to be reasonably accessible, but I'm still fathoming out how it
> works
> >>>> properly.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jackie Cairns
> >>>> J&M Work-Ability
> >>>>
> >>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf Of
> >>>> David
> >>>> Sent: 22 January 2011 09:55
> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Jackie,
> >>>>
> >>>> Can you tell me where you got you apps from. I have tried itunes
> and
> >>>> the
> >>>> apple shop, but I must be doing the wrong thing as I come up with
> >>>> nothing.
> >>>>
> >>>> David Weston.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf Of
> >>>> Jackie Cairns
> >>>> Sent: 21 January 2011 08:45
> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Yes, I don't think the prices differ greatly. Living in a
> village,
> >>>> going
> >>>> online is best for us, so it's as well to be the Apple store as
> >>>> anywhere
> >>>> else, and their delivery service is very quick. I believe John
> Lewis
> >>>> sell
> >>>> the Apple range, and everything with them carries a two-year
> guarantee,
> >>>> so
> >>>> maybe that's worth considering. They will also give you hands-on
> like
> >>>> the
> >>>> Apple store in all probability. I note with Argos that anything
> with
> >>>> storage capacity doesn't carry a 30-day money back guarantee, so
> if you
> >>>> buy
> >>>> and don't like, you would need a hard and fast reason for
> returning it
> >>>> to
> >>>> them.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Jackie Cairns
> >>>> J&M Work-Ability
> >>>>
> >>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf Of
> >>>> David
> >>>> Sent: 21 January 2011 08:36
> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Carol,
> >>>>
> >>>> The price is very much the same where ever you buy the ipod. Thou
> >>>> before
> >>>> Christmas Argos was selling the ipod touch 32 gb for £20 less that
> the
> >>>> Apple
> >>>> store.
> >>>>
> >>>> David Weston.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>>> Behalf Of
> >>>> Carol Pearson
> >>>> Sent: 20 January 2011 17:06
> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> OK, I do understand that Brian but don't know exactly where
> they're
> >>>> sold and
> >>>> was surprised to learn about Argos.
> >>>>
> >>>> Is there much difference in price as you look around and any way
> of
> >>>> finding
> >>>> the prices from these different stores, please?
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Carol P
> >>>> ---- Original Message ----
> >>>> From: "the williams family" <therefuge@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:32 AM
> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>>
> >>>>> hi carol
> >>>>> remember apple products are also sold by other retailers.
> >>>>> We got our ipod touches from argos.
> >>>>> brian
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>>>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:30 PM
> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>>>> Jackie,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm getting more and more hooked. Just can't quite decide
> whether to
> >>>>>> go for phone or the Ipod Touch. Strangely enough, we are also
> looking
> >>>>
> >>>>>> at Bose systems right now and I'm thinking of Bose speakers for
> my
> >>>>>> computer system which is away from the main stereo.
> >>>>>> Anyway, I now fully understand the difference between these two
> so
> >>>>>> shall be looking, though am disappointed as we don't have an
> Apple
> >>>>>> store very near at all.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Carol P
> >>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
> >>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 8:31 AM
> >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Carol
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> With the iPod Touch, as long as you put your broadband security
> key
> >>>>>>> in, you will be able to treat it like a PC online, where you
> can
> >>>>>>> download material and browse the Internet. What you can't
> obviously
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> do is make calls etc, because the phone part is not included.
> But,
> >>>>>>> as I've said several times, the phone isn't the bit I want as I
> am
> >>>>>>> happy with the handsets and Talks I use. I just love the iPod
> Touch
> >>>>
> >>>>>>> for the applications it can work with. At the moment, for
> example,
> >>>>>>> I have put my device through a set of Bose speakers, and am
> >>>>>>> listening to Five Live Sports Extra so I can hear the tennis.
> >>>>>>> Quality is very
> >>>> good
> >>>>>>> and no drop-out or stuttering.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
> >>>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On
> >>>>>>> Behalf Of Carol Pearson
> >>>>>>> Sent: 18 January 2011 15:47
> >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> >>>>>>> recommend
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Jackie,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I never realised you could do so much with the Ipod Touch. I
> hadn't
> >>>>>>> thought about it going online, though I should, knowing that
> Apples
> >>>>>>> stuff works with ITunes, and I certainly hadn't thought about
> it
> >>>>>>> being able to run these other apps.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Very interesting, for sure!
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So, does anyone know if all apps work across the board on their
> >>>>>>> equipment? Just interested in how things work.
> >>>>>>> ...
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Carol P
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> ---- Original Message ----
> >>>>>>> From: "Jackie Cairns"
> >>>>>>> <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-
> uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:21 AM
> >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Four apps for iPod Touch/iPhone to
> recommend
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> My Apple keyboard arrived yesterday, and pairing it with my
> iPod
> >>>>>>>> Touch was extremely straightforward. So I decided to visit
> the App
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> Store and, for 59p each, I bought four applications that work
> with
> >>>>>>>> VoiceOver. They are the World Fact Book 2011, a dictionary and
> >>>>>>>> thesaurus, Tune In Radio and, probably my favourite, Birds of
> >>>>>>>> Britain. The latter is an amazing little program if you love
> bird
> >>>>>>>> sound and details. Not only can you play the song, but you
> can
> >>>>>>>> listen to VoiceOver provide a description of their size,
> colour,
> >>>>>>>> family, time of year etc. There is also a favourites button
> to use
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> where you can add a library of your favourite birds to it.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tune In Radio is great. Similarly, there is a bookmark
> facility
> >>>>>>>> where you can make a list of the stations you wish to add.
> Because
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> I love tennis, and the Australian Open is on at the moment, I
> have
> >>>>>>>> great difficulty getting it on DAB as we have such a
> diabolical
> >>>>>>>> signal in these parts. So when I tuned in using the Sonata at
> 8.00
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> this morning, a message said that restricted rights prevented
> >>>>>>>> coverage. I find this often happens at weekends when football
> >>>>>>>> matches are in progress too.
> >>>>>>>> So I tuned my iPod to Sports Extra and, low and behold, got
> the
> >>>>>>>> tennis on live.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> All the above apps work with VoiceOver. I don't use my
> keyboard
> >>>>>>>> for everything, mainly when I get into tricky areas that need
> a bit
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> of typing. Mostly, I use my fingers and have got used to doing
> so
> >>>>>>>> now.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Just thought I'd pass on the info.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jackie Cairns
> >>>>>>>> J&M Work-Ability
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> jandm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>>>>>> www.work-ability.co.uk
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